Did They Really Stop Making R 134a? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Greasy · #16 04-18-2005, 11:07 PM

Most of the replacement type refrigerants are not EPA approved for moble A/C applications. They need to be to legally be put into an automoble A/C unit. My $.02

Greasy
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TimFreeh · #17 04-19-2005, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

How do you determine it tho? I mean, you have the fittings that are different but you cannot tell if I have inserted anything without an analyser. AFAIK, when you switch to R134A, you change the hose fittings but no one will know if you insert other stuf in and use the same hose except hooked up to differerent containers, will you?

You are correct - The only way to know for sure is to use an analyzer. I suspect 99.9% of people that use non-standard stuff don't use the "correct" service port for the refrigerant. I have seen several conversions that DID use a sticker to identify the type of refrigerant.

Old300D · #18 04-19-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselJim

The ozone layer is all a crock. You know how much ozone is manufactured as opposed to depleted. Like so much junk science perfectly good products are ruined. Bring back R-12 and DDT and life would be better. I don't buy into the facist idea that government is going to outlaw 134 because the patent expired. Oh well. I suspect acutal science will show that ozone layer depletion is caused by natural phenomenon. Moral of this story is wear your sunscreen and junk scientists and bureaucrats get a life!

That sounds like the well-informed opinion of an atmospheric scientist, derived from the rigors of the scientific method.

Not.

Habanero · #19 04-19-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselJim

The ozone layer is all a crock. You know how much ozone is manufactured as opposed to depleted. Like so much junk science perfectly good products are ruined. Bring back R-12 and DDT and life would be better. I don't buy into the facist idea that government is going to outlaw 134 because the patent expired. Oh well. I suspect acutal science will show that ozone layer depletion is caused by natural phenomenon. Moral of this story is wear your sunscreen and junk scientists and bureaucrats get a life!

I hope that was tongue in cheek, otherwise, I am not going to comment.

Anyway, as to the refrigerant argument, why don't you all just be real men and roll down the window? My truck and my benz are the first vehicles I have ever had that had working air conditioners and I almost never use either. Note that I also lived in Oklahoma for 2.5 years. If you are used to the heat, it doesn't bother you. If I could just convince my wife...

aklim · #20 04-19-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Habanero

I hope that was tongue in cheek, otherwise, I am not going to comment.

Anyway, as to the refrigerant argument, why don't you all just be real men and roll down the window? My truck and my benz are the first vehicles I have ever had that had working air conditioners and I almost never use either. Note that I also lived in Oklahoma for 2.5 years. If you are used to the heat, it doesn't bother you. If I could just convince my wife...

My great grandfather walked all of his life or got a short ride. He never drove. Every day he would walk many miles to work (about 6-8). If you are used to walking, it doesn't bother you either. He did it till he was about 80 and died from a head injury. A few days before he was walking too.

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