Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 06-15-2005, 02:48 PM
H2O2's Avatar
Empty Vessel
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ladeluftkühlerstadt
Posts: 1,429
If it's anything like the M-type pumps on the OM60X engines, the throttle arm will move forward as you increase the full load quantity--the idle quantity screw is then adjusted to pull the throttle arm back so that it will idle at the correct speed.

Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06-15-2005, 03:09 PM
boneheaddoctor's Avatar
Senior Benz fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hells half acre (Great Falls, Virginia)
Posts: 16,007
Quote:
Originally Posted by H2O2
If it's anything like the M-type pumps on the OM60X engines, the throttle arm will move forward as you increase the full load quantity--the idle quantity screw is then adjusted to pull the throttle arm back so that it will idle at the correct speed.

In my case that didn't do much.....and at only 1.5 turns out of the full load adjustment I can almost remove the idle stop screw and it still idles at 900 RPM....

But like I suspect the difference is my IP has less than 100K miles on it adn yours had well over 200K...I think that mine was delivering more fuel at the get go due to less wear. And cranking the ALDA all the way back didn't help either (much that is, you do need to compensate on this). Tonight I will try to readjust it to 3/4 turn out from original. and reinstall it...as 1.5 turns on mine in hot weather is over the top.

This is a great example why SMALL increminatal adjustments are agood idea.
__________________
Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
---------------------
Section 609 MVAC Certified
---------------------
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Last edited by boneheaddoctor; 06-15-2005 at 03:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-15-2005, 03:51 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
This is a great example why SMALL increminatal adjustments are agood idea.
Most defintely. I have had the back off 2 times already for this adjustment...doing it nice and slow.
I am okay with overfueling it and then coming back as I can watch the pyro and easily let out of it if things are getting too hot too fast.
Were you getting noticeable smoke with the higher idle/adjusted?

Brandon
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-15-2005, 04:17 PM
boneheaddoctor's Avatar
Senior Benz fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hells half acre (Great Falls, Virginia)
Posts: 16,007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon314159
Most defintely. I have had the back off 2 times already for this adjustment...doing it nice and slow.
I am okay with overfueling it and then coming back as I can watch the pyro and easily let out of it if things are getting too hot too fast.
Were you getting noticeable smoke with the higher idle/adjusted?

Brandon
Oh it laid down some Black smoke.......under hard acceleration....but none once you eased up...But what really bugged me was the fact it wanted to hang at cruising speed and was real slow to return to idle speed.
__________________
Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
---------------------
Section 609 MVAC Certified
---------------------
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-15-2005, 04:24 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Oh it laid down some Black smoke.......under hard acceleration....but none once you eased up...But what really bugged me was the fact it wanted to hang at cruising speed and was real slow to return to idle speed.
Hmm...
Do you think adjusting your lower screw (bottom left hand corner), which we believe to be the idle quanitity adjustment, could slow the idle down?
I realize we are playing with fire here tinkering with so many adjustments but I am just throwing the question out...not nessisarily condoning the adjustment thereof
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 06-15-2005, 05:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 269
Doctor,
I'm sure it is just a slip when you say turns out, but to increase fuel I turned the adjustment in or clockwise.
__________________
Bob D.
Parrish, FL
1 SDL, 1 D, 1 TD, 1 Mog
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06-15-2005, 05:19 PM
WANT '71 280SEL's Avatar
I'll Go Upside Your Head!
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,378
H202, What special is required to do the 60x pumps? Did you remove your oil filter housing when you did yours?

Thanks
David
__________________
_____________________________________________

2000 Honda Accord V6 137k miles

1972 300SEL 4.5 98k miles

_____________________________________________
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 06-15-2005, 06:48 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by h2odiesel
Doctor,
I'm sure it is just a slip when you say turns out, but to increase fuel I turned the adjustment in or clockwise.
Just realizing this error

I've found that it takes between 40-50min from start to finish to adjust mine. (I don't remove the filter housing).

I will be making a webpage with pictures on how I do it if anyone is interested.

Brandon
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 06-15-2005, 06:50 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by WANT '71 280SEL
H202, What special is required to do the 60x pumps? Did you remove your oil filter housing when you did yours?

Thanks
David
http://www.meimann.com/docs/mercedes/Bosch_full_load.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 06-15-2005, 07:42 PM
gsxr's Avatar
Unbanned...?
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 8,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by WANT '71 280SEL
H202, What special is required to do the 60x pumps? Did you remove your oil filter housing when you did yours?
For the OM603 pump, there's no need to pull the filter housing. But on the 124 at least, you need to pull the cruise actuator (not sure about the 126 but I'd assume it's the same). Plenty of room for access but the adjustments are TOTALLY different than the 617 pump. I haven't messed with my 603 pump yet, but I will be doing so by mid-July if possible (only 1/2 turn since I have no IC or WI.)

Side note... the meimann.com domain will be shut down shortly, in an attempt to kill the tidal wave of spam. It will come back eventually but just for email, no Mercedes content. All the Mercedes content has been moved to the W124performance.com domain instead. The full load doc would be here:

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/OM60X/

__________________
Dave
Boise, ID

Check out my website photos, documents, and movies!
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 06-15-2005, 08:08 PM
WANT '71 280SEL's Avatar
I'll Go Upside Your Head!
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,378
Anxiously awaiting results....

Thanks
David
__________________
_____________________________________________

2000 Honda Accord V6 137k miles

1972 300SEL 4.5 98k miles

_____________________________________________
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 06-15-2005, 08:58 PM
boneheaddoctor's Avatar
Senior Benz fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hells half acre (Great Falls, Virginia)
Posts: 16,007
Quote:
Originally Posted by h2odiesel
Doctor,
I'm sure it is just a slip when you say turns out, but to increase fuel I turned the adjustment in or clockwise.
Yes...that was a typo becasue I had your email in my hand as I did it....just got things crossed up in my mind typing. Didn't get anything done tonight as I was awaiting word of if I was going to be heading to a undiscolsed Goverment location tonight...turns out I didn't go after all....so tomorrow I should get this done.
__________________
Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
---------------------
Section 609 MVAC Certified
---------------------
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Last edited by boneheaddoctor; 06-15-2005 at 09:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 06-15-2005, 09:39 PM
WANT '71 280SEL's Avatar
I'll Go Upside Your Head!
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,378
What is this undisclosed location you speak of? Just kidding. We should start a "what do you do for a living thread"

Thanks
David
__________________
_____________________________________________

2000 Honda Accord V6 137k miles

1972 300SEL 4.5 98k miles

_____________________________________________
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 06-15-2005, 09:56 PM
boneheaddoctor's Avatar
Senior Benz fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hells half acre (Great Falls, Virginia)
Posts: 16,007
Quote:
Originally Posted by WANT '71 280SEL
What is this undisclosed location you speak of? Just kidding. We should start a "what do you do for a living thread"

Thanks
David
Nope can't disclose that.......But a large portion of the work I do is for the goverment...as they are a customer.
__________________
Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
---------------------
Section 609 MVAC Certified
---------------------
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 06-15-2005, 11:03 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
The 300SD is offically adjusted. Idle is good and hasn't changed. It doesn't drop as quickly but I think that an idle quanitity screw adjustment might help that a touch

The Results?
Fast
No smoke as of yet...still bringing the boost down.
This pump has LOTS of room to add fuel.

Back out to play with the biodiesel...back later

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sunroof adjustment procedure... HELP!! tippee Tech Help 4 11-06-2006 06:43 PM
Group Buy for 617 Valve Adjustment Wrenches omegabenz Diesel Discussion 69 02-27-2004 11:00 AM
1980 Tranny shifting/vacuum adjustment - my solution... Fisherman Diesel Discussion 1 02-10-2003 05:18 PM
Valve adjustment procedure Chris Haney Diesel Discussion 2 07-05-2002 10:48 AM
Full Load Fuel Adj. mreid Tech Help 4 06-29-2001 10:30 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page