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Old 06-16-2005, 03:08 AM
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I hope you plan to hit the dyno ASAP when you finish adjustments....
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:26 AM
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I hope you plan to hit the dyno ASAP when you finish adjustments....
All I know is...100MPH is now easily obtained
Watching that pyro is a chore for the time being while adjustments are being made...
More adjustements tomorrow

If anyone can find a dyno shop around me I will run it.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:48 AM
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Cool..I hope to get to mine tonight. and see if I got mine a spline off.....since I am working without a locking tool thats a possibility.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:43 AM
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brandon,b-doc,
its been awesome eavesdropping on your conversation but i can't seem to find brandon's web page. here's a thought; has anybody considered retro-fitting one of those new TDI turbos w/ the variable boost? i find it frustrating that my 300td is a dog until i hit 2100 RPMs. maybe the tdi turbo won't push enough volume for a 3 litre.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:52 AM
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I think the TDI's turbo is undersized for the Benz....why..the TDI is 1.9 liters and the 617 is 3.0 it would have worse problems than the T-3....

What do I think would be practical...

A T3/T4 Hybrid based on a ceramic ball bearing center cartridge.....

The center cartridge while not cheap will alow you to spool faster...the T4 compressor section will allow higher boost volume at a higher efficiencey...the T3 is into its innefficent range by the time its at 15psi on a 3.0.


Now a variable vane turbo sized correctly for a 3.0 if one exists would be nice but I am unsure what means is used to control thos vanes.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:59 AM
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i believe the variable vane is engaged through centrifical force
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:35 AM
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All I know is...100MPH is now easily obtained
Watching that pyro is a chore for the time being while adjustments are being made...
More adjustements tomorrow

If anyone can find a dyno shop around me I will run it.
An inexpensive way to monitor your performance progress would be to purchase a G-Tech accelerometer , which will allow you to take note of 0-60mph and 1/4 mile specs with each round of adjustments. There are vastly superior alternatives out there, but the G-Tech is affordable and reasonably accurate.
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How about a EGT limit fuel cutout switch? Should be easy.
Just don't set it to the limit due to thermal lag.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:33 PM
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brandon,b-doc,
its been awesome eavesdropping on your conversation but i can't seem to find brandon's web page. here's a thought; has anybody considered retro-fitting one of those new TDI turbos w/ the variable boost? i find it frustrating that my 300td is a dog until i hit 2100 RPMs. maybe the tdi turbo won't push enough volume for a 3 litre. db(benji's dad)
DB,

1) If your car is a dog until 2100rpm, you need to adjust the off-idle fuel delivery. If you are NOT messing with full-load quantity, do this with the ALDA adjustment. If you are going to mess with full load, do that BEFORE dinking with the ALDA.

2) Most of the variable vane setups I'm familiar with are computer controlled, i.e. not mechanically operated. If someone knows of another option let me know. I'm pretty sure that if there was something available, the Finns would have already BT and DT...

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Old 06-16-2005, 05:44 PM
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1) If your car is a dog until 2100rpm, you need to adjust the off-idle fuel delivery. If you are NOT messing with full-load quantity, do this with the ALDA adjustment. If you are going to mess with full load, do that BEFORE dinking with the ALDA.
BTW I agree with this...when adjusting my full load up it adjusted the whole range and now I can almost break the tires loose when I drop the pedal to the floor. The ALDA can only do so much to reduce the doggness...mine was much like this before I tweaked the with full load. But unless you have a pyro you cannot really touch the full load adjustment

There is nothing wrong with the turbos on these cars...if the IP is properly adjusted you can get off idle power quickly. (Also I have little/no smoke on takeoff.)
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:48 PM
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brandon,b-doc,
its been awesome eavesdropping on your conversation but i can't seem to find brandon's web page.
I am going to work on the webpage this afternoon and have it up soon.
I need to make up a few diagrams and also post my new pictures.
Please remember though...no pyrometer = no touch the inside of that IP
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:37 PM
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Well I didn't get to my car tonight.....been cutting up steaks...

Got an Entire Fillet Mignion for $7.99 a pound.....at a Local Iranian market we are friends with....Not feedlot crap you find at the big box stores....
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Well I didn't get to my car tonight.....been cutting up steaks...

Got an Entire Fillet Mignion for $7.99 a pound.....at a Local Iranian market we are friends with....Not feedlot crap you find at the big box stores....
I believe food comes before fast
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.....at a Local Iranian market we are friends with......

................they let you in the market???.............


That's the funniest GD thing I heard all day.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:29 AM
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If anyone can find a dyno shop around me I will run it.
http://www.eis-diesel.com/

I put My ISSPRO Pyrometer and 0-15psi boost gauges on order tonight, my manifold is ready to go on when I get the pyro, and an intercooler is on the way soon.
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