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Oil Cooler Hose Source
Replaced my front crankshaft seal and I was oil leak free for about a week. Until I decided to adjust the IP timing. Now the IP gasket is leaking as bad as the old crank seal.
I suppose I should renew the oil cooler hoses while the oil filter housing is off. The local MB dealer wants $180 for the two hoses. Anyone know a better source for genuine MB hoses? (I don't want an aftermarket version.) |
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I found a local hydraulics supply place (in cincinnati, "Ohio Hydraulics" and brought the old hoses into them, told them what it was for, and I think I was only $60 lighter when I left. I'd do it again. (with due consideration of the forum)
They arent OEM, but a hydraulic place will have the "good" crimping tools to do the job well-thier other customers were guys and companies with Bobcats and hydroseeders...). I can't speak for performance becuase that 300D that took me to the hose place was running with hose clamps on the oil lines, and a hose clamp came off on the way home - I caught it but not in time my mistake=my loss -John
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My wagon has hoses from Performance Products, and I'm pleased with their quality.
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I have some OEM ones on my SD now, been on there over a month or so I'd say now. No leaks, fit fine, etc. Just over $100 for my two if you shop around.
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Attention folks. This topic has come up many times and the answer is to salvage the ends off of your existing hoses, go to the local parts/hydraulic hose shop and get new hoses made. I just had mine done for $10 each. The process is so easy as to make no odds. Try it, you'll like it.
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The oil pressure is about 4-5 bar , not more than a 100 lbs psi. So most of these hydraulic hose places should be able to crimp them for you.
A Cat , Bob cat hydraulic system got to be 1500 psi. So as your power steering pump be at least 1000 psi. While this subject is up, some newer model Benzes had these el cheapo power steering pump clamp fail prematurely too. Cause big prob for a lot of folks. |
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I worry about the hose material, we are pre-supposing that you are saying a hydraulic place crimps on NEW HOSE for you. The OE hose is made of layered material that seems to be vulcanized somehow. Its tough stuff compared to some hoses stuff I've seen that uses a nylon web inside two rubber layers. I also spoke with a local hose place that said they could make up a hydraulic hose and crimp metric ends "most likely" for me. I took that to mean if they had the right ends they would crimp them on to whatever hose they could find that is used for hydraulic service. I wanted hose material that absolutely would be rated for hot oil and that wouldn't compromise my newly rebuilt 617, so it was off to the dealer and they give me a small discount that helps.
And while I'm thinking of this subject let me remind folks that removing the hose fittings from the oil cooler can sometimes take the make threads with them being aluminum and all they fuse onto the steel threads in a bad way. To avoid this I slit the nuts with a small cutting wheel (Dremel) or remove the oil cooler with the hose ends attached (cut them off!) then remove the ends carefully this will mean the difference of another $280 or so If you do it right you won't be replacing the cooler also!
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If you do mess up the threads onthe oil cooler there is this from an earlier post:
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Here's the "nipples" and the package, straight from MB. Good luck. On the paper work, they were ordered using the above listed part # 915013-013002
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All those folks who have purchased new oil coolers will be sick when they see this!!! |
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tangofox007,
I just took them out to the car and eyeball comparison shows them to, indeed, be the same as the nipples on the oil filter housing. Once again...ain't German engineering grand! (Well, except for the air cleaner mount, the cruise control amp and the climate control servo, etc. ) Edit: I just looked up the part # on the EPC for the oil filter nipples and tangofox was correct. The part # is exactly the same as for the repair "screwed nipple" for the oil cooler!!
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Nipples! Hooray! oh yes, speaking of great German engineering like the the W202 shock towers that fail, the wiring harnesses that get flaky on newer models, etc etc.
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