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Old 07-04-2006, 11:06 AM
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oil to diesel

On the way home from work I stopped to ask a guy about a 240d he had in his yard. Well we never did talk about the car because we got talking about his oil fracturing plant. He converts waste motor oil into diesel.
Check out this site http://www.oiltodiesel.com/PhotoPost/
He has posted pictures of his set up here and his handle is leroysoil
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:17 AM
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you will have that.

some things are even more fun to discuss than benzes!

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Old 07-04-2006, 11:49 AM
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When the EPA catches this fellow the fines will be in the high millions.
As per current law:
He is operating an illegal petrochemical fuel refinery/cracking plant.

His ingenuity and creativity is great, but he will soon end up in federal prison.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:24 PM
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I wonder how well it works. I'm sure many shop mechanics here can get hold of many gallons of used oil. There is about 300 gallons of waste oil next to the shop right now...
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Old 07-04-2006, 07:24 PM
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Buddy of mine was down in the Valley taking brand new transformer off line...huge transformer holds something like 20,000 gallons of almost pristine light mineral oil...which has to drained and is then sold to be recycled.

All the line crews want it for their diesel trucks...nope they sell it and gets shipped to Russia (??), they get to burn it up. Is this a crazy world or what!!??
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crazy

and you guys think i am crazy....
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Old 07-04-2006, 07:43 PM
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Buddy of mine was down in the Valley taking brand new transformer off line...huge transformer holds something like 20,000 gallons of almost pristine light mineral oil...which has to drained and is then sold to be recycled.

All the line crews want it for their diesel trucks...nope they sell it and gets shipped to Russia (??), they get to burn it up. Is this a crazy world or what!!??

No its not crazy its business. Either Russia is willing to pay more for it, or the possible liablity of selling here is to great, or the cost is to much. Its non road taxed fuel so it may be difficult for them to legally sell it.
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Old 07-04-2006, 07:22 PM
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When the EPA catches this fellow the fines will be in the high millions.
As per current law:
He is operating an illegal petrochemical fuel refinery/cracking plant.

His ingenuity and creativity is great, but he will soon end up in federal prison.
You might not think it so good if it were next door to you and there could be a problem if it goes Kablooey. That or if there is a leak and bad stuff gets out before it is contained.

However, OTOH, if none of those things happen, he probably will skate along quietly under the EPA radar.
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Pretty neat setup! The guy is definitely a tinkerer. What did he use to fuel the Beckett burner? Did he happen to mention what kind of "operating" cost vs. output production?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:30 AM
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Now back to the show.

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Pretty neat setup! The guy is definitely a tinkerer. What did he use to fuel the Beckett burner? Did he happen to mention what kind of "operating" cost vs. output production?
He uses the waste oil from the boiler to run the becket burner so it must take a bit for it to burn efficiently. He says out of 10 gallons of used motor oil he gets 7 gallons of diesel fuel. He then filters it and adds Powerservice to boost the cetane.
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EPA question

About a year ago A guy I work with accidently dumped 4000 gal of diesel into an inspection pit for locomotives (he's not the sharpest knife in the droor). The pit is tied into a fuel/waste oil/rain water reclamation system. It turns out the pit has had a large hole in it for years and a good portion of that fuel leaked out into the surrounding earth. It also is not the first time that has happened, I'm told there have been much larger spills in the same pit to the tune of 10,000 gals. Here is the worst part. There is a major irrigation canal that runs about 250 yards from the inspection pit. What should I do?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:46 AM
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The manager summond the help of a maintenance person to patch the hole in the pit after it was discovered. And no attempt to clean up the soil was ever done.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:52 AM
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The manager summond the help of a maintenance person to patch the hole in the pit after it was discovered. And no attempt to clean up the soil was ever done.
That's the kind of activity that would result in a significant civil penalty for the company, as well as an order to clean up the soil at their expense. I don't know how much liability the individual manager may have.
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Old 07-05-2006, 01:13 PM
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The manager summond the help of a maintenance person to patch the hole in the pit after it was discovered. And no attempt to clean up the soil was ever done.

Yep if they ever catch that expect both legal and clean up expenses to be well into the seven figure range. I wouldn't rule out jail time either. I have seen the way these guys act with fuel spills, that my friend is an industrial pandora's box. You should consult with an environmental attorny.

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About a year ago A guy I work with accidentally dumped 4000 gal of diesel into an inspection pit for locomotives (he's not the sharpest knife in the Drawer). The pit is tied into a fuel/waste oil/rain water reclamation system. It turns out the pit has had a large hole in it for years and a good portion of that fuel leaked out into the surrounding earth. It also is not the first time that has happened, I'm told there have been much larger spills in the same pit to the tune of 10,000 gals. Here is the worst part. There is a major irrigation canal that runs about 250 yards from the inspection pit. What should I do?
Please read this post with great care.

As of this moment; you have NO option!!!
You must report it.
By making this post:
#1. You are a witness to a criminal act.
#2. You are criminally culpable (now that your knowledge is public) if you fail to report it.
#3. Be aware that this is a public forum, and some members are government employees = Forestry, Law enforcement, US geological service, IRS, EPA, etc, etc, = they are obligated to report criminal acts or be prosecuted themselves for failing to report it.

I do not know the company and/or it's reaction (or employee reaction).
The following may be over reaction or save your life/health/job.

Please consider:
#A. Consult a lawyer (for your protection) before you report it.
#B. Your continued employment may be in doubt.
#C. Your continued health/life may be in doubt.
#D. Witness protection/relocation may be needed.
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