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Old 08-04-2006, 06:55 AM
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Sorry, my mistake , I was respectfully disagreeing with t walgamuth's inference that the seals were too old in a '73 gearbox and that synthetic would cause leakage. My point was that any of our gearboxes could be considered "old" and I have not heard of any horror stories about leakage.

and estod, you are refering to Larry Bible , who is first among equals around these parts. I take everything Larry says very seriously, and it is hard to agrue with success, but if there if a product out there that is specifically made for this purpose, that seems to work, why not use it? I don't think MTL has been around quite long enough to have racked up 500K on a vehicle, but I have been using it (and MT90, the heavier oil) for over 10 years and have put 300K total on several cars

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Old 08-04-2006, 07:11 AM
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hey you all can run whatever you want.

synthetic might be better. i dont really know. but i do know what i would do on a tranny that old. especially if i didnt know if the seals had been replaced. i would put in as close to what they were engineered to use as i could find. and since i am old enough to have actually had one of those 20 some years ago, i think i can remember that they called for 10w30. i dont have an owners manual though. so i am not sure.

now it may not be any weight to the synthetic advocates, but i have had at least a dozen and probably close to 20 benzes with over 200k on them. i have had very very good luck with the manual trannies, never running any syntetic in them. i did replace one tranny in a 240 once because of an apparent synchro problem that it had when i bought it, but after replacing it i had it opened and looked at and he could find nothing wrong with it, so it probably was a shifter problem.

i am running synthetic in three of my cars now. the engines.

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Old 08-04-2006, 01:41 PM
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I have an owners manual from a 115. I'll look at it tonight and post back.
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Old 08-05-2006, 12:53 AM
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Although not an official MB shop manual, I do have one for the '68 to '72 220/8 gassers written by Kenneth Ball and published in the UK in 1972. This manual has a very extensive section on the syncromesh transmission with description of the unit, R&R instructions and disassembly and renewal instructions, including drawings. I suspect that this is the exact same tranny used in the 220D/8 of the same years. In the description it says "Automatic transmission fluid (Type A) is used as the lubricant in the gearbox."
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Old 08-05-2006, 10:08 AM
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in that case, that is what i would use.

it must have been my finney that used the 10w30.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
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Old 08-05-2006, 10:14 AM
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So where can MTL be bought?
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Old 08-05-2006, 08:11 PM
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Check Redline's website- you can search for their dealers. Probably some mailorder too.

Type A ATF? Lemme think - oh yeah - that's over there next to the dinosaur eggs.
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Old 08-05-2006, 08:39 PM
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hey now.... i heard that .... or read that.

whatever atf is available now in that case.

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