You're aware that every new Kia *is* a Hyundai, right?

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Really? I did not realize that. Either way, they are all pieces of junk anyway. They have that "great" warrantee, but what good is that when the car is always in the shop, and you have to constantly shell out for a rental? My mother just bought a Kia, and I was shocked. There was a bunch of stuff that broke on it literally the day she bought it. She drove it for a couple of days, then it spent almost 2 weeks in the shop (lucky for her the dealer lent her a used Mazda), and they told her it was fixed, but a couple of days after that it started having the same exact problems! Junk

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87 300D - Running on Veggie oil; 260,000 plus miles; Original #14 head

Does it really matter? I can hardly tell the difference between a Honda and a Toyota.

Of course you never know if the car actually sold for that price and you can bet it did not if it is relisted. None of the adds on eBay I have seen lately really address the issues of the cylinder head or evaporator or sunroof. With the possibility of any or all of these issues coming up with these cars it is a real crap shoot unless there is verifiable proof of the work being done, and being done correctly.

You would think that someone who would pay that kind of money for a 19 year old car would check things out ahead of time, but I guess unless you take it to just the right shop, no one would know the idiosyncracies of this car.

How much would you pay for this car? I figure no more than $7,000.

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Doug

1987 300TD x 3
2005 E320CDI

That is the thing with new cars and warranties, you have to deal with their schedule and take time out of your day for their badly made car. Quite often, the time spent doing business with the dealer's service department, takes more time than buying the part by mail order and fixing the car myself.

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Doug

1987 300TD x 3
2005 E320CDI

Geez, every time I see these crazy ebay prices or when random people offer money for my car, I'm always tempted to sell my wagon which is in better maintained condition than most of these examples. But then where could I get another 7 passenger vehicle that gets 30mpg on the highway.

It's hard to believe that the biodiesel/WVO folks that are driving up the prices. But regular diesel is so expensive now that it doesn't make economic sense.

I've also had a few crazy offers on my 99 Suburban 6.5 Turbodiesel which I bought new. I know WVO folks like it as it has lots of room for the second tank. I keep it around as its the only vehicle that can fit our big family and dog and stuff on our weekend trips and still get 18mpg which I used to think was good.

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1970 280SE Cab
1983 300D Euro 4-speed
past MB's:
1971 280SE 3.5 s/r
1981 300D
1985 300TD
1987 300TD

Have you looked into converting your Diesels to run WVO? I'm getting Used filtered oil for 85 cents a gallon and if I go to a wholesale restaurant supply place I pay $2.59 a gallon for clean un-used soybean oil. When I need to travel long distances I just fill up with Diesel.

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Tomas

1979 300D Turbo WVO Converted
Running on 100% Soybean Oil
1987 300TD Diesel Wagon

Please tell me about the cylinder head & evaporator. I just got mine not to long ago... Im' not aware about these two issues.

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Tomas

1979 300D Turbo WVO Converted
Running on 100% Soybean Oil
1987 300TD Diesel Wagon

Here's another one: 1987 300TD $15,500.00 and six days left... Is it time to sell?

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Tomas

1979 300D Turbo WVO Converted
Running on 100% Soybean Oil
1987 300TD Diesel Wagon

I doubt it, there just isn't that much commercial BD around and the cost is still pretty close to petro diesel. The WVO/homebrew crowd is too small to affect overall prices. It only takes two bidders to drive up the price of a eBay auction anyway. Maybe people are bidding on these cars because they want the option of running alternative fuels in the future if prices keep going up, it is one of those things that "sounds like a good idea."

I looked into it early last year, but figured it would take too long to recoup my costs as I only drive about 6000 miles per year per car. Also, I don't have the personality to be able to go to the local restaurants and ask for their WVO. I also considered selling the 87TD and putting all our miles into the diesel Suburban, but then I would be stuck driving a truck all the time that's noisy, handles and brakes poorly, and is a pain to park.

But now that fuel prices are another $1.50 higher than before, and if I knew I could buy unfiltered oil for $0.85/gal, then it seems like WVO could work for me. Now that I've done the math again, it makes it easy for me to justify keeping my cars. Thanks.

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1970 280SE Cab
1983 300D Euro 4-speed
past MB's:
1971 280SE 3.5 s/r
1981 300D
1985 300TD
1987 300TD

Hmmmmm......this is a members car. Low miles. Honest sounding description too.

Anyone wanna fess up?

Cheers,

Bill

I think thats crazy money for that car.

Why bother? The diesel isn't any better than the M103. I'd buy a 300TE and pocket the rest.

Yeah spending an extra $8k to get 5mpg makes sooooo much sense.

I can honestly say in today's market if I were MB shopping I would not consider a diesel.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

I think he fessed up in the Cars for sale forum.

Does the Chicago Mercantile Exchange handle calls for 87 300TDs?

Sixto
93 300SD

Yeah, the owner did post up with further explanation on the head replacement. Can't seem to find the thread right now. Nice car, I wouldn't mind owning it. Rather regret selling my '87 wagon. Hey Ron, can I have it back?

That said, I'm with Hattie all the way. No way the diesel is worth that kind of premium over the gas car, you will never come close to recouping the extra cost. I guess that's why all these nice cars are on Ebay all of a sudden.

FWIW my '87 routinely delivered 23-34MPG city and 27-30Hwy. A good running 603 is a nicer drive than the 103 as well.

For mid-teens what year 210 wagon can you get into? The M112 is a more reliable engine than the 603, and the fuel mileage is almost a draw. (I now drive a 2001 wagon, so can make direct comparison under the same use.)

- JimY