help 1981/123 trans book ????? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

johnjzjz · #1 11-27-2006, 05:44 PM

hi i took the trans apart today it did not back up and i cant find why the 3rd band is thin but nothing else is bad - the first band is thin as well the 1 / 2 shift but that works OK the servo piston is not broken and the seals were not shredded ???? any ideas or how i can obtain a trans book thanks -- when you put it into reverse it wanted to back up but never relay engaged jz

rrgrassi · #2 11-27-2006, 05:45 PM

Even the FSM magically "forgot" to put in a tranny section. I have not seen one yet.

rs899 · #3 11-28-2006, 07:01 AM

Is your a 722.315? ATSG writes manuals for both the 722.3xx and 722.1xx series, you can Google and find them. Also on Ebay. They are only slightly better than random chance, IMO., so don't expect much.

johnjzjz · #4 11-28-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rs899

Is your a 722.315? ATSG writes manuals for both the 722.3xx and 722.1xx series, you can Google and find them. Also on Ebay. They are only slightly better than random chance, IMO., so don't expect much.

ATSG the printing was done buy blind people who dont know english hahahahahahah thanks i have in the past thrown those away or used them to soak up the bench oil -- you would think they would do a good job -- thanks jz

rs899 · #5 11-28-2006, 10:13 AM

john- That's a very good use for the ATSG manuals. You did not reply about what type of tranny you have. I suspect it is a 722.1xx (four-bolt oil pan). I have a poor pirated copy of the factory 722.3xx manual that I can email (8 mb file), if that helps any. I can tell you the band material is not very thick on the one's I have seen.

Rick

johnjzjz · #6 11-28-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rs899

john- That's a very good use for the ATSG manuals. You did not reply about what type of tranny you have. I suspect it is a 722.1xx (four-bolt oil pan). I have a poor pirated copy of the factory 722.3xx manual that I can email (8 mb file), if that helps any. I can tell you the band material is not very thick on the one's I have seen.

Rick

hi Rick i would apre the down load thanks i have located a pal who has done 100s of 6 bolt units - showed him the bands and the sevro for reverse he is as puzzeled as i -- he said the front and the reverse bands were in good shape and both clutch packs were not hurt at all no high heat no nothing - everything looks like a 5 year old rebuild with liminated miles -- i hate when this happenes - the next thing that will happen i will get a kit tomorow and install it and it will work - till its 200 below zero 3 feet of snow in someone driveway i shouldent be in and it wont back up hahahahahahahhahahahahha -- you know --- thanks in advance for the files on this 4 bolt unit -- picture of other toys -- jz

rs899 · #7 11-29-2006, 07:34 AM

The file I have is for the 6- bolt? Do you want it? Give me an address that will accept a big file...

Rick

johnjzjz · #8 11-29-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rs899

The file I have is for the 6- bolt? Do you want it? Give me an address that will accept a big file...

Rick

hey guy i found a ATSG for a 722-1 and 2 had i - i would never have taken it out the band was out of adjustment ( DAM IT ) i had asked and no one responded on ether site about the band had an adjustment or what it might have been -- and it was so dirty i dident see it till i took the trans apart and was cleaning it -- 35 years ago i fixed a than reverse problem for a friend and i knew it the early car had a band -- than when i bought the overhaul kit ( FITS 1970 / 83 ) ( WOW CHEAP ) 200 0r 300 - with or with out steels -- i am doing it only because its out its really ok otherwise -- if you ever need any info from me just drop me a line i thank you for your help Rick -- PM me i will give you my direct e mail -- jz

rs899 · #9 11-30-2006, 07:32 AM

John-

Oh yeahh, now that you mention it - guess I forgot all about that because you were talking 300D and I was thinking 240D. I had the same experience myself on the 240D auto (also a 4-bolt) I bought last year. The lady sold it because it no longer had reverse (among other reasons). But it was simply a case of the reverse band adjustment, with is located on the passenger's side in front, had simply backed out. I reached down, screwed it back in by hand- reverse came back. So , for the record, this is a fairly common occurrence on the 4- bolt trannies, when you lose reverse.

Rick