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Yes, I bought that stuff there. It's M&D as I recall... Mom & Dad...
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M&D dont have a clue.
anyone have a garrett assembly number for a 1992 w124?
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I'm lost. Does ANYONE know what garrett series t3 were used in the mercedes? I cant seem to find any info, or anyone who knows. I'd like to rebuild myself.
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300D turbo rebuild
Hello all,
Been reading this thread about rebuilding the turbo for an 83 300D. Question are the 300D and 300SD turbos the same? I have a 300SD whose turbo is very hard to turn and therefore I assumed it is needing TLC. I also have a 84 300D in the yard wich willingly gave up its turbo for me to practice taking it apart for rebuilding. so if I rebuild this one will it work properly in my 84 300SD? Just bolting it on does not constitute proper fit. Thanks to all who will give me their input adriano
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I had a 1984 SD turbo with a chassis w126 and the chassis on my 1985 D turbo is a w123. Does that help?
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The W123 and W126 (through 1985) cars used the same OM617 engines. However, you'll find two different turbo manufacturers, Garrett and KKK. Although I don't know for sure, I wouldn't be surprised if they are not interchangeable--meaning you couldn't mount a Garrett T3 on an engine originally equipped with a KKK because the mounting arrangement might be different.
I have a 1982 300SD with a Garrett T3. On the back side of the compressor housing, there's a small plate with the model number, which is the first set of digits on the second line (in my case, 465228-3). Don't know whether the Garretts found on 1992 W124's (OM603 or OM606?) have a plate in the same place, but it's worth a look. You may need a mirror, a flashlight, and very good eyesight. Paul |
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What about balancing? The turbo spins at such a large velocity, I would think that balancing would be a VERY important part of rebuilding a turbo. Probably why its big bucks to rebuild them. I didn't see anything in these posts about what was being done about the balancing. Do you just put the compressor wheel back on EXACTLY where it came off and call it good?
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You're right, the shaft spins in excess of 100K rpm, so balancing is pretty important.
If neither your turbine nor your compressor wheel is damaged at all, you could, in theory, mark the position of the compressor wheel and compressor wheel nut relative to the shaft (remember, the turbine wheel/shaft is a single component) and reassemble them exactly the same. However, the only place to mark them before disassembly is at the very end of the shaft, and there's a high likelihood your markings would come off with cleaning. The better option is to pay a shop to clean the parts, mount the compressor and nut on the shaft (maybe use a new nut), balance it and mark it. Then you put it back into the housing, aligning the marks again when tightening. I had mine balanced by Tim's Turbos, 3217 Annandale Rd, Falls Church VA 22042, phone 703.241.7411. He charged me $55 including bead blasting. He's local for me, so you'd have shipping costs, too, but maybe you can find someone near you. |
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all the balancing is done on the nut, replacing the nut is a BIG no no. Unless you re-balance it.
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Let me clarify my last post. Here's a pic of the cleaned and rebalanced shaft assembly. The new nut is at the right side of the photo. Replacing this, or any part of the assembly, would warrant rebalancing. But balancing is generally done by grinding the "nut" (barely visible) at the extreme left side of the photo. This is not a removable nut, but the hexagonal end of the shaft/turbine component. (And yes, I forgot to mention that the thrust bearing needs to be part of the balance.)
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Hi Hit Man X. Are saying that my 300SD Turbo is likely a Klaus? Do you know where I might find a good remanned turbo?
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Hi Hit Man X. Are saying that my 300SD Turbo is likely a Klaus? Do you know where I might find a good remanned turbo?
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