Whats' it worth? '85 190D - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Bama1 · #1 03-22-2007, 10:37 PM

Mercedes '85 190D, 168K, 2.2 liter 4 cylinder Diesel. Lt yellow exterior with brown interior. The seats look new. Heat/air system controls needed and the rear pass window inoperable. Sun roof works. Body good in general with a rust bubble on one fender edge and jack points. I have not yet inspected it but photos present it as fair-to-good.

Values anyone? What to look out for on this model?

babymog · #2 03-22-2007, 10:46 PM

I don't know "squat" about the 2.2, but in general: cracked dashes, in-op Climate Control, auxiliary pump, rust holes in the rockers, flaring transmissions, hole in driver's seat left bolster, odometer, outside temp display, A/C operation, sunroof cables and window lifts/switches, power antenna.

Great driving little cars, not sure about the power on the 2.2, but should be a tight-handling little ride.

No idea on value, I have seen the 2.2 around on Ebay et al mostly under $3k for good drivers. With rust and some problems I'd guess more like $2k, but I'm not Kelly Blue Book or anything.

winmutt · #3 03-23-2007, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bama1

Mercedes '85 190D, 168K, 2.2 liter 4 cylinder Diesel. Lt yellow exterior with brown interior. The seats look new. Heat/air system controls needed and the rear pass window inoperable. Sun roof works. Body good in general with a rust bubble on one fender edge and jack points. I have not yet inspected it but photos present it as fair-to-good.

Values anyone? What to look out for on this model?

Stick? Auto? An auto is probably not going to be the most thrilling ride.

Bama1 · #4 03-23-2007, 05:38 PM

Yes I would consider if it were a 5speed. It is on craigslist now...

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/296295291.html

jaoneill · #5 03-23-2007, 06:34 PM

If you check it out, and there are no more issues than what is indicated, at $1750 I would go for it. I paid $2300 for a similar car (usual minor issues) a year ago. They aren't rocket ships, but are a nice handling, economical ride.

Good luck,
Jim

Bama1 · #6 03-23-2007, 09:26 PM

I am not interested in the automatic but I will check it out if someone on the forum is truely interested. I spoke to the owner who sounds like a straight shooter...his phone number is in the craigslist add.

volvoP1900 · #7 03-25-2007, 04:11 AM

I WANT THAT YELLOW 190!!!
Thank you for posting about it! I have been looking for one, of course really wanting a five speed, but I love that cream yellow. (I know, it's a psychological illness to like yellow cars, but we Swedes like our national colors...don't ask!)

I am some ways away, but I am going to try to buy that car without seeing it. Bama1, do you know if he said the car is still being driven regularly/is up to a trip? You said the owner sounded trustworthy? Rust and odors inside the car are my only two significant concerns.

I just emailed him, but I will try to call him tomorrow as soon as I can.

Thanks for sharing!

Jason

Jim B. · #8 03-25-2007, 04:26 AM

If you are REALLY Norwegian or Swedish, you're already looking for a pair of those HUGE driving lights to mount on each side of the grille lol

The first generation 190 W201 sedans are nifty, safe, and gas/diesel misers.
Just make sure there's no rust on it before you jump on it. With the diesel engine and an automatic you won't win any speed contests, but that isn't waht MB diesels are about anyway

chasinthesun · #9 03-25-2007, 12:27 PM

the vac pump needs to work ,it does have a week point on some vac pump designs in the early w201 ,the one I bought had a self destructed vac pump ,the bearing was missing down in the motor ,not good ,it didnt destroy the motor ,actually just scorred the bearing ride.Replaced it with a junkyard one out of a 89 190d ,the newer bearing carrier had a beefed up design and the bearing it self was smaller.new and improved

t walgamuth · #10 03-25-2007, 12:30 PM

2k was the number that popped into my head too.

but it would have to be in decent condition.

tom w

Bama1 · #11 03-26-2007, 12:23 AM

He was taking it to have it checked out on Thursday and I have not called him back. He was pretty much upfront about the condition. Call him directly, he works swing shifts and uses it for commute. I probably should have bought it but I'm holding out for a 5-speed. He did say that there is some rust at the jack mounts but he has no qualms about jacking it up so it may be superficial. I cannot see it in the pictures...perhaps he can provide some close-up shots to make sure the condition is clearly understood.

vtmbz · #12 03-26-2007, 07:53 AM

My 85 190d gets closer to 34 mpg with an automatic, nothing like 40mpg. I bought mine for $1100 with a bad transmission. My jackpoints were rusty and I ended up deciding to replace the rockers completely ($100 pr at Sherman Auto). The body had a lot of stiffness even with the rockers completely sawed out.

I like mine a lot even though it has needed a complete going over to correct years of complete neglect. Correct maintenance is crucial to the cars being reliable.

volvoP1900 · #13 03-26-2007, 11:29 PM

hi

VT-- do you mean 34 city or hwy? did you think about having a five speed put in when you did the trans job?

Jim B- lol well, does looking as far as my garage count, for the miniature suns that mount on front bumper? helps to spot the odd moose in the road. and did you say "NO rust" ?

i drove a 2.3 190 everyday for about three months. it was enjoyable. i know its no 300 or E class, but how safe are these cars? the structures? they are not that heavy...thus the mpg so much better than the bigger diesels?

what does the vacuum pump do?

thanks,
jay

vtmbz · #14 03-27-2007, 08:33 AM

Well, real men drive automatics. They trust machinery!

In any case, five speeds are in short supply for these cars. My mileage is about what the EPA said it might be ore maybe a little better. I'm not obsessed with this. It does not get the mileage that a Jetta does, but so who wants to drive a 20 year old VW?

cscmc1 · #15 03-27-2007, 10:49 AM

Hey Guys -- check out Klaus Kallas' 84 190D *5 SPEED* in the cars for sale forum. $1200 -- a little beat up, but NO RUST. Can't beat that. I was going to try to buy it before I scored a Euro 300D last night, so I'll pass this along and hopefully someone here will buy it pronto!