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Old 05-15-2007, 05:35 PM
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The Vacuum Pump, sucks from the Vacuum System and Discharges into the Crankcase.......soooooo.......if you have a large Vacuum leak, anywhere in the car.....the Atmosphere that enters at the leak will exit out of the Valve Cover vent pipe to the Oil Separator located within the Air Cleaner.......

More Vacuum Leaks, More volume from Vent......

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That makes a lot of sense.

If an engine hasnt been run for a while, once it is run for a while could blow by decrease at the rings get used more and maybe some of the crap is burned off?

How can the oily blow by be reduced other than a ring job? Is there anything that could be done?
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:41 PM
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That makes a lot of sense.

If an engine hasnt been run for a while, once it is run for a while could blow by decrease at the rings get used more and maybe some of the crap is burned off?

How can the oily blow by be reduced other than a ring job? Is there anything that could be done?
Here is a trick that may reduce some of the oil in the blow-by off the valve cover vent. Sometimes the oil return galleys from under the valve cover on older engines get clogged up like arteries to and from your heart. This prevents the oil from returning back down to the oil sump fast enough and the valve cover gets flooded out. The extra oil gets splashed up into the oil seperator in the cover and goes out with the Blow-By.

An old gear head told me to use a guitar string (low E with the Brass wire wrapped around it) like a long pipe cleaner and hone out the crud/tartar from the return oil galleys. You can run the guitar string all the way through to the sump in some holes. Then he said to run the engine to flush all the crud you knock lose to the pan and then change the oil. It works great if thats your problem....and can reduce smokey exhaust and oil consumption.
Hope that helps!
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:52 PM
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Fred,

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try this at some point.

Its very interesting to hear about these 'other causes' of blow-by.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:24 PM
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Here is a trick that may reduce some of the oil in the blow-by off the valve cover vent. Sometimes the oil return galleys from under the valve cover on older engines get clogged up like arteries to and from your heart. This prevents the oil from returning back down to the oil sump fast enough and the valve cover gets flooded out. The extra oil gets splashed up into the oil seperator in the cover and goes out with the Blow-By.

An old gear head told me to use a guitar string (low E with the Brass wire wrapped around it) like a long pipe cleaner and hone out the crud/tartar from the return oil galleys. You can run the guitar string all the way through to the sump in some holes. Then he said to run the engine to flush all the crud you knock lose to the pan and then change the oil. It works great if thats your problem....and can reduce smokey exhaust and oil consumption.
Hope that helps!
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I am surprised that nobody has picked up on F18's tip. These older Diesels that consume oil could greatly benefit from this tip. I will try it on mine at next Valve Adjust time. All of the experts have been claiming for years that it is due to Valve Guide wear. I cannot buy this explanation when an engine is using 1 qt per 300 miles and there is no blue smoke ever.

Something that has not been stated. Some "blowby" will always occur due to the movement of the pistons up and down and acting as an airpump in the crank case. It is a dynamic situation that does not fully self-cancel. In addition to this is the contribution from gases coming past the rings and the vaccuum pump discharge as already noted. In general blowby is a very poor and unreliable diagnostic and this has been noted in some of the threads dealing with compression.

Please jump in here some of you guys since I want to learn more on this topic. The info on the industrial large diesel engine explosion feature was very informative.
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:04 PM
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I don't know about later vacuum pumps but the claim that the vacuum pump vents into the crankcase on the early model vacuum pumps seems false. The early model vacuum pumps have a line that vents into the top of the air cleaner.
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