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ARINUTS · #1 10-12-2007, 09:56 PM

Brian,
I am trying to conjure up some ideas to improve a great engine / vehicle. I am not selling this car. I want to intelligently / practically / "bang for buck" modify it.

I'm just looking for ideas here guys.

I have some ideas, like a modern quick spooling turbo with a big downpipe/exhaust.
Maybe a tranny swap. What other engines have the same bolt pattern as the 617?
Maybe a differential change. Maybe propane injection. I don't know I want to hear everyone's ideas and I want to discuss. I think there is some serious potential if you think about it?

Brian Carlton · #2 10-12-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ARINUTS

I think there is some serious potential if you think about it?

Define "serious potential" and I'll provide you with the cost to achieve same..............then you'll reconsider your options.

4 wheelssmoking · #3 10-13-2007, 12:01 AM

try some nitrous

2.5Turbo · #4 10-13-2007, 01:38 AM

There isn't all that much modification potential in the 617 engine. It's just not designed for outrageous performance. It doesn't have a crossflow head and it only has 10 valves. Get an E300DT or a CDI if you want easy performance. Or if you like to tweak, get a 300SDL with a good 603 and start playing with the full load screw+pyrometer and maybe in intercooler. Anything can be done with the right amount of money, but the question of practicality arises.

Super performance on these engines does not come cheap. Everything you can easily do with stock components and easy mods have already been outlined.

Nitrous won't help much at all. Remember, diesels operate on the principle of excess air, so adding more oxygen (which is what really isn't going to do much unless you can provide the fuel to make use of it. Same goes with the boost...sure, you might be able to [dangerously] get 20psi out of your stock turbo, but all you'll be doing is drastically heating the intake charge and endangering stuff like your head gasket. Unless your IP is modded to provide more fuel (and that opens up the whole EGT can of worms), more air isn't going to do any good.

Cervan · #5 10-13-2007, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 2.5Turbo

There isn't all that much modification potential in the 617 engine. It's just not designed for outrageous performance. It doesn't have a crossflow head and it only has 10 valves. Get an E300DT or a CDI if you want easy performance. Or if you like to tweak, get a 300SDL with a good 603 and start playing with the full load screw+pyrometer and maybe in intercooler. Anything can be done with the right amount of money, but the question of practicality arises.

Super performance on these engines does not come cheap. Everything you can easily do with stock components and easy mods have already been outlined.

Nitrous won't help much at all. Remember, diesels operate on the principle of excess air, so adding more oxygen (which is what really isn't going to do much unless you can provide the fuel to make use of it. Same goes with the boost...sure, you might be able to [dangerously] get 20psi out of your stock turbo, but all you'll be doing is drastically heating the intake charge and endangering stuff like your head gasket. Unless your IP is modded to provide more fuel (and that opens up the whole EGT can of worms), more air isn't going to do any good.

You could use nitrous to get up to speed, put the alda to full fuel, and then just add nitrous. instant oxygen more horsepower at low speeds, then you let off on the nitrous at high speeds. Basically the alda is crap just to make the engine burn abit cleaner. might save a very minute ammount of fuel in the long run. all it does, is when there is a low ammount of boost. the alda limits the ammount of fuel that can be injected. then when boost comes up, the alda allows more fuel to be provided.