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Unless the camshaft/chain were "randomly" installed, resetting the IP should solve the problem. The crank and camshaft are back in sync again at "180* off." It's just the injection timing that's off.
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Since he didn't mention removal of the IP during this "event", it's probably not a wise idea to remove and reinstall the IP..........although the result would be functionally the same. Last edited by Brian Carlton; 08-26-2007 at 11:38 AM. |
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You have three variables. I would bet that two of them--the crank and the ip--have not "skipped" teeth, and therefor, are in sync. Then the only other variable is the cam. One thing I've assumed is that the chain and the gear were not painted with a mark, otherwise, just line everything back up and you're good to go. But assuming we don't have those marks, I would just work on the cam sprocket timing. Also, I don't understand how you can correct 180 camshaft timing with removing the ip. Seems like you should just work on the thing that's broke. JMHO.
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So, if the camshaft remains fixed and the crankshaft rotates 360 degrees, the crank/cam relationship is unchanged. You have just moved ahead two cycles in the four cycle process. So you just need to move the IP ahead two strokes by rotating it 180 degrees to "catch up." |
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Getting the IP timing off and the valve timing off is not as hard as you think! First rotate the engine by hand until you see the crankcase "0" mark line up with the timing pointer with No.1 piston fully up. Thgen with the valve cover removed, check to see if the dimple in the camshaft gear is lined up with the edge of the steel on the drivers side of the head. Once you get there, remove the injection pump and make sure the timing marks face each other! You should be looking upwards toward the 10 or 11 O'clock position. Re-install the IP and do the drip test from there. Hope this helps. You would be wise to have a service manual with pictures!
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Ok just got back from the garage .... cam and crankshaft are fine , i just checked, anyway its easier then ip removal...what i did is i got mark to 0 TDC compression stroke-cams were facing up,so i removed the chain and tried to rotate camshaft 180 degrees..a a a ...cam vent half a way - exhaust valve was hitting piston ...so i guess i installed it right the first time ...
It's time for a pump to come off...but oil filter housing has to come off first...those 5 bolts---......so little room to work... I'm on my way to SEARS now to buy 6 mm longest wrench ....one of the bolts ,thats in the middle,unaccessible ,i already cut off 1cm of Allen 6mm to fit smallest ratchet but even that didn't help ,i'll use this cut off for the wrench ,hope i'll succeed.... No one has answered my Question so far , about IP removal---will i have to lock it?, Or just set at 24 BTDC take OH off and pull out ip-realign marks and put it back ? Thank you. |
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No. What would be the point in locking it in the wrong place?
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Well i asked because on CD i have two variants one removing /installing ip,second installing IP with locking nut --- with steps set at -15 atdc ,2nd step put mark 4th tooth to the right,after mark ....
Thats why im asking. |
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Just set the crank to 24 BTDC, line up the IP notch with the mark and reinstall the IP. (Assuming that you don't have one of the mismarked IP's.) Then drip time, before reinstalling the oil filter housing.
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I guess if you're bent on removing the ip, then go ahead and do it. If cam and crank are "fine" I don't see how you don't know ip is fine as well. Why not at least take the little springs and stuff out of the #1 shot in the ip and rotate the motor and see when it squirts or wells up. If it squirts at something like 34deg, that means it'll drip at somewhere near 24deg. Then just loosen it up and time it instead of pulling the whole mess off. I thought for sure my chain had skipped teeth, especially since the ip seems to "lope" on the chain--you rotate the motor and it goes and goes and then all of a sudden the ip "pulls" on the chain for about a 1/4 crank. I guess I'm writing this mostly for the benefit of others who may not be so inclined to pull the ip if not totally necessary. But then again, if pulling more things off the motor doesn't bother you, then by all means....
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Since you are so bent on believing every thing is "fine," please share your explanation as to why the engine runs so poorly.
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I contend that the chain did not skip any teeth on the pump or the crank and you're chasing a ghost by removing the ip. All imho. Good night and good luck.
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thanks for your time |
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