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Old 12-06-2007, 07:37 PM
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It is more than just mpg.

The price of fuel is only ONE component of running costs.

The overall cost per mile should be determinative for the budget-conscious. That takes into account durability, build quality, frequency of repairs, costs of parts, insurance premiums, and other things, such as interest on car loans and depreciation.

True, the cost of fuel is a wild variable and can't be predicted, and it is likely the trend will only be in one direction (and that is up!) but it is only one factor.

Another is safety. Buying a really safe car, that will protect you in an accident, like a Mercedes Benz or a Volvo, should matter, also.

The cost of medical care, or crippling or fatal injuries that occurred because you were trying to save money on fuel by buying a car that was made of paper mache makes a pretty convincing case to stay with Mercedes Benz, gas or diesel.

But every time the price of fuel rises, the sales of the little sardine can/good mpg vehicles spikes, too. I have rented some of those little tiny cars, and they scare me. In a bad wreck there is no doubt you could get killed, maimed, or paralyzed from being in one of them. Not worth it to me.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:49 PM
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In a bad wreck there is no doubt you could get killed, maimed, or paralyzed from being in one of them. Not worth it to me.
That is completely unfair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s
vs say
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lB0araA0T_k
and sure its got a busa engine in it but nuff said
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:05 PM
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Well Jim B, I am looking at a Benz

You must have read that in haste, but i did say a 94 E420, unsaid but implied that it is a Mercedes Benz. I don't think the body is as well built as the 85 W123, though I have never driven one. I plan to drive this one on Saturday. It does have the double air bag system up front of course. We could get along very well with one car, and I am kind of looking to go with a more economical Benz and getting rid of the Diesel and the Lincoln. That Town Car has been wonderful for the past ten years, but not economical for city driving. We use it mostly for long trips in the summer, and then it does OK, at about 21mpg at 70 mph.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:24 PM
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I had a 93 400E a couple of years ago. On the highway it would return 26.5 -27 MPG on a very steady basis - it was actually cheaper to fuel than the car that I was using for a 60 mile per day commute. Guess what model Benz that car was??

Yep, a 240D.

You are going to love the E420 but be aware that its at least an order of magnitude more complex than any W123. The M119 engine is really shoe-horned into the engine bay and its a real PITA to work with.
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:34 PM
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Well If I fill both tanks @ a $3.46 Iam looking @ $96.88.. thats 28 gal.
I hold a total of 34.

We usually only fill the main tank, but on trips we do both.

It will only get worse cost wise as time goes. the environmentalist, oil co.
ceo`s, and politions won`t be happy until we are just like Europe, and
the rest of the world.

So we just gotta make more money,

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Old 12-06-2007, 09:50 PM
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Once you go Diesel, you never go back!!!!

I am not sure what an E420 looks like, but I can speak from experience of going form a Diesel to a gasser when I recently purchased my first gasser in close to 3 years.

It is nice at first to drive a 190E, and it is a 5 speed, so it is also fun/ cool, and it has handling that my W123 could only dream of...........BUT

1- The glow light never goes out......(joke)

2- I was driving the 190E for a few weeks straight and then got back in to a 123 for the first time when I had to pull "my sons" 300CD out of the driveway.

I couldn't believe the difference. It was like had been driving a toy car for the last few weeks! The oversized steering wheel, the secure feeling of a true classic MB Diesel, the missed and loving sound of rattle rattle , and even the scent of the old leather and torn up dash made me think "No way I could keep driving a gasser".

3- My 190E 5 speed is for sale..........


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Old 12-06-2007, 11:35 PM
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Another fuel price thread, WOOHOO!
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