Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-27-2008, 03:17 PM
imagesinthewind's Avatar
I SK8 Roller Derby!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver-ish
Posts: 953
Front Seat Removal, 78 300SD

Here is what I have on the front of the passenger seat and prolly the driver seat as well. The back came off with a 10mm socket, but the front. . .WTH???
The bolt, shown upside down, has a philips head and the bottom (has some kind of round really thick washer type of thing. I cannot get to the head of the bolt, I can barely get a finger under to feel the head.
What now, brown cow???
Thanks!

__________________
Ginny in Denver-ish
78 300SD, 265K (mine)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-27-2008, 03:49 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canby, Oregon
Posts: 36
http://handbook.w116.org/Chassis%5C91-110.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-27-2008, 03:51 PM
Admiral-Third World Fleet
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Central FL
Posts: 3,068
Ginny-

I can't really make out what's on the head of that fastener, but if it's not a 10mm bolt w/normal six-side head, it's not GI. Unless someone else can make it out, I can't be of much help. If I HAD to make a guess, looks like a torx bit head- but that would be a GM or other mfg, not MB.

It is usually the rear bolts that are hard because you can't get the seat up to get at them.

Rick
__________________
80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-27-2008, 04:03 PM
imagesinthewind's Avatar
I SK8 Roller Derby!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver-ish
Posts: 953
Quote:
Originally Posted by LilTimmy View Post
I do so wish using the handbook would help, but I don't have what the book says I should have.
__________________
Ginny in Denver-ish
78 300SD, 265K (mine)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-27-2008, 04:07 PM
imagesinthewind's Avatar
I SK8 Roller Derby!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver-ish
Posts: 953
Quote:
Originally Posted by rs899 View Post
Ginny-

I can't really make out what's on the head of that fastener, but if it's not a 10mm bolt w/normal six-side head, it's not GI. Unless someone else can make it out, I can't be of much help. If I HAD to make a guess, looks like a torx bit head- but that would be a GM or other mfg, not MB.

It is usually the rear bolts that are hard because you can't get the seat up to get at them.

Rick
The 'nut' is completely round, not chewed round, but a round washer-like nut that won't let me get to it.
I don't have the same bolt heads on the front as on the back.
__________________
Ginny in Denver-ish
78 300SD, 265K (mine)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-27-2008, 04:10 PM
Unofficial wormcan opener
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, MA
Posts: 2,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by imagesinthewind View Post
The 'nut' is completely round, not chewed round, but a round washer-like nut that won't let me get to it.
I don't have the same bolt heads on the front as on the back.
Can you look under the car and see if there is a nut. Not sure why someone would do it like that but.............
__________________
1987 300TD 309, xxx 2.8.2014 10,000 mile OCI


Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. anonymous

“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter won’t mind.” Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-27-2008, 05:01 PM
imagesinthewind's Avatar
I SK8 Roller Derby!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver-ish
Posts: 953
Nope, nothing under the car.
The nut you see has a bolt head under it that I can feel.
The whole thing is up off the floor but there is nothing else that can be seen or reached to undo to get the`seat off.

It's like that on both sides so I assume it was factory like that.
Anyone else got a W116 that can go look?

My next step is to just take the sheepies to an interior place and have them instal them. I just cannot see ANYTHING else that would let the seat come off the floor.
__________________
Ginny in Denver-ish
78 300SD, 265K (mine)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunrise, FL
Posts: 2,053
This in not a difficult one, just one of those "duh" situations.
You are not looking at the seat fastner, but a fastner for the
seat track. Your seat elavator is in the wrong position
and is actually covering the seat bolt that needs to be removed.
Use the elavator adjust on the side of the seat, and move the seat
all the way down. It will move back at the same time, uncovering your
bolts.
__________________
81 Mercedes 300SD 289k.......SOLD
82 Mercedes 300CD 252k......slow ride

82 mercedes 300 SD...mi Unknown
83 Mercedes 300D ????ksniff..gone too
84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-27-2008, 05:43 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunrise, FL
Posts: 2,053
I just saw that this is the front bolts.
move the seat all the way to the forward position,
Sit in the seat.....I know it is cramped.
now pull that lever on the side of the seat......and put your back into it,
most have not been moved in years so it may be difficult.
now move the seat back again with the lever shown in your pic.....TADA
__________________
81 Mercedes 300SD 289k.......SOLD
82 Mercedes 300CD 252k......slow ride

82 mercedes 300 SD...mi Unknown
83 Mercedes 300D ????ksniff..gone too
84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-27-2008, 09:02 PM
imagesinthewind's Avatar
I SK8 Roller Derby!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver-ish
Posts: 953
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackG View Post
This in not a difficult one, just one of those "duh" situations.
You are not looking at the seat fastner, but a fastner for the
seat track. Your seat elavator is in the wrong position
and is actually covering the seat bolt that needs to be removed.
Use the elavator adjust on the side of the seat, and move the seat
all the way down. It will move back at the same time, uncovering your
bolts.
You so ROCK!! That was it and I now have navy sheepies on my two front seats. I'll get pics in the morning when there is light. We were running against time and the light and just made it, screwing in the last bolt with a flashlight.
Oh, and while I had the drivers seat out, I added padding to the bottom and back of the seats. Much firmer and I sit up higher than I did even with the elevation as high as it could go. What a great day!
New sheepies AND I got myself a nice big mechs tool kit!

Thanks so much!!
__________________
Ginny in Denver-ish
78 300SD, 265K (mine)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-28-2008, 05:26 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunrise, FL
Posts: 2,053
Cool. I'm glad you got it.
The first time I had seats to get out
I had the same problem, only it was the back bolts
I couldn't get to.
__________________
81 Mercedes 300SD 289k.......SOLD
82 Mercedes 300CD 252k......slow ride

82 mercedes 300 SD...mi Unknown
83 Mercedes 300D ????ksniff..gone too
84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-29-2008, 09:12 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Palm Bay Fl
Posts: 426
Back Bolts

Quote:
Originally Posted by JackG View Post
Cool. I'm glad you got it.
The first time I had seats to get out
I had the same problem, only it was the back bolts
I couldn't get to.
Ok yesterday I went to go look at wait yall were talking about, I saw some ants in my car, small almost clear looking ants now I am trying to remove my seats to clean everything. I did get my seat to move all the way down and back at the same time, uncovering the front bolts. Now how do I find the back bolts, I have the MB service manual and it shows the bolts, but the bolts are not there on my car. 1980 300SD
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-29-2008, 09:38 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,355
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kpmurphy View Post
Ok yesterday I went to go look at wait yall were talking about, I saw some ants in my car, small almost clear looking ants now I am trying to remove my seats to clean everything. I did get my seat to move all the way down and back at the same time, uncovering the front bolts. Now how do I find the back bolts, I have the MB service manual and it shows the bolts, but the bolts are not there on my car. 1980 300SD
Move the seat all the way forward and up. Typically requires a helper pushing from behind to accomplish this.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-29-2008, 10:49 AM
imagesinthewind's Avatar
I SK8 Roller Derby!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Denver-ish
Posts: 953
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kpmurphy View Post
Ok yesterday I went to go look at wait yall were talking about, I saw some ants in my car, small almost clear looking ants now I am trying to remove my seats to clean everything. I did get my seat to move all the way down and back at the same time, uncovering the front bolts. Now how do I find the back bolts, I have the MB service manual and it shows the bolts, but the bolts are not there on my car. 1980 300SD
You move the seat FORWARD by pulling up on the lever that is on the front of the seat. You move it UP by pulling up on the lever that is on the side of the seat. Pull up that lever and scootch the seat up and forward. The side lever is for elevating the seat so you can see over the dash better. Moving that lever and pull the seat forward will expose the back bolts. They use a 10mm socket, BTW.
__________________
Ginny in Denver-ish
78 300SD, 265K (mine)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-29-2008, 07:33 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunrise, FL
Posts: 2,053
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry View Post
Move the seat all the way forward and up. Typically requires a helper pushing from behind to accomplish this.
I have done some pretty bad ones myself.
If you move the seat all the way front, then climb in the back seat, lean forward and pull up on the elevator, then use your legs (and shoulder) to move the seat elevator up.

__________________
81 Mercedes 300SD 289k.......SOLD
82 Mercedes 300CD 252k......slow ride

82 mercedes 300 SD...mi Unknown
83 Mercedes 300D ????ksniff..gone too
84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page