Came across this thread about an interesting motorhome. Wondering if anyone is familiar with and has an opinion about the Deutz air cooled diesels?

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/20933867.cfm




Here's a picture:

http://www.magirusdeutz.co.uk/images/F8L413V81000.jpg

Here's a video of one in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEGfu_nxhbw

Here's another video. How does air cooling work underwater?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InoMAYyW_3E&feature=related

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I used to rebuild deutz engines, very very well designed easy to work on engines. All alluminum engines except for the cast iron block. They have individual cylinders and heads so if something goes wrong with one, you dont have to pull all the heads. overheating isnt a problem either, as long as you have airflow, the cylinders will score before the heads have a problem. very very well designed. Heres a picture of one that ive rebuilt many many times.
http://www.mnc.lt/products_images/deutz1.jpg
that on the end is a very efficient fan that is pully driven, then you have the air chamber and then the cylinders have fins that helps disperse of the heat. Whats great about deutz is that a rebuild is very very simple, sometimes expensive but very simple. if you want to do a major rebuild, you can buy the entire top end set wich includes the pistion,rings,piston rings and clips, and the cylinder, then you just put your old head onto it, and you have a brand new engine.

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1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won.

pearl black 1983 240d 4speed (Converted!@$$%) atleast the tranny was rebuilt.

I work with a certified Deutz nut. He loves Deutz engines because they are easy work on and rebuild. My co-worker is used to working with ag and industrial applications, not automotive applications, however.

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- '95 Mercedes E300D "The Great White"
- '98.5 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 - "The Green Hammer" (Sold 12-08)
- '81 VW Rabbit diesel w/GTI suspension - "The JackRabbit"
- '00 Triumph Sprint ST for when I need speed

Thats a pretty nifty idea, makes for additional complication which is overcome by ease of rebuild.

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Every once in awhile I come across a larger boat with Deutz diesels. They are pretty rare in the states. I don't think all of them are air cooled, I have no idea how you would put an air cooled engine in a boat?

When my uncle got his RV, which was pretty much a coach bus it had either a large CAT or Cummins diesel, I forget. Since it was a regular over the road bus and not one of those dogs based on heavy duty trucks it cruised 70-75 with ease.

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pretty cool. I like the way those trucks look and sound

Reminds me in some ways of a type1 VW engine only better with the "single cylinders"
I wonder how heavy they are, would be cool to mount one to a VW, but what a project, especially thr right gearing. VW BAJA diesel!!

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Currently driving a very clean 1985 300SD from the West Coast.

Mercedes is using the individual cylinder heads on their large (non-car) engines.

Most large diesels use individual cylinder heads.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Yep...

The design of this engine was conceived through a Deutz/General Electric partnership. 45° V16 4-stroke with 6250HP. Twin-turbo as well, one for each bank.

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2000 E430 - 103k
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel 4x4 - 11k
2014 VW Passat TDI SE - 7k Bro's Diesel
2006 E320 CDI - 128k Pop's Benz

Pre-glow - A moment of silence in honor of Rudolph Diesel

I find it interesting the water cooled aluminum heads have cracking problems but the air cooled aluminum one do much better in that area.

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Thats pretty big! I have seen V12 Deutz diesels, look kind of like that. Rare SOB's in this country though, getting one fixed or parts could be a PITA. The nice thing about CAT is you can get parts and tech support anywhere.

At least in the marine world I really like CAT's, Cummins, and Yanmar. Volvo is so so, but their parts support sucks. Not to mention the prices! Detroit is DOA, used to make nice stuff though. IMHO Yanmar's are a bit clunky and smoking compared to a similer Volvo, but their parts are cheaper and so easy to get!

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2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

I only remember seeing deutz tractors in Germany. I think they sell them here now too....huge things like monster versions of semi tractors with huge tractor tires on them.

I gotta think it is a quality power plant.

Tom W

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Yes, Deutz tractors were sold here in the states up to the mid-1990s. I used to work across the street from a Deutz tractor dealer.

Here is a link to video of a 15- to 20-year old Deutz tractor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaCAYpPGtmk&feature=related . If you like the sound of diesels, air-cooled Deutz diesels are for you. They have a raw, punchy sound because the noise isn't shielded by a water jacket.

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Nothing cranks me like compression ignition.

- '95 Mercedes E300D "The Great White"
- '98.5 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 - "The Green Hammer" (Sold 12-08)
- '81 VW Rabbit diesel w/GTI suspension - "The JackRabbit"
- '00 Triumph Sprint ST for when I need speed

Didn't Deutz make the diesel engines in WWII U-boats?

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'99 Ford Escort - good MPG