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Parallel flow condenser
From my searches here, swapping in a parallel flow condenser seems to be wise when changing to R134a air conditioning.
I'm having trouble finding a source, however. My application is a 1981 123 (300D) chassis no. 224431. Anyone know a parallel flow condenser source?
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Its been done at least once before. I forget who did it but this is the picture I have.
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No I don't but living here in Phoenix, Arizona we need AC! I converted mine to ES12 (Envirosafe) after replacing all my O rings and seals and it cools as good as R12 or better without the hassle of R134A! And no parrallel condensor was necessary. This is a completely legal conversion as long as you do it right and Evirosafe has no Biologically harmful side effects either!
![]() Your going to get much better performance form your engine as well as an improvement in fuel economy too since ES 12 operates at lower pressures and it takes less of it! Your compressor will also love it, it's not having to work as hard to do the same job and ES 12 requires a lot LESS horsepower or Killowatts to cool! ![]() http://www.es-refrigerants.com |
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Do a search on parallel condensors. Make note that you will need the fittings custom made so that it is a simpler bolt in replacement. I also understand the the parallel flows are difficult to flush in the event of a catastrophic compressor failure.
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There are two places where you can get a parallel flow condenser for that car. Ackits.com and acsource.com.
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Still happy with my R12, not planning to convert any time soon. The current charge has held reasonably well for three years now.
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I did a search on "parallel flow condenser" and came up with ackits.com and acsource.com
There was also someone who bought one on ebay that would need to be adapted to fit the MB hoses. Good luck! Let us know how it turned out.
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If you look at the MSDS, LP or Propane.
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Don`t even think about using LP or Propane, fire ,explosion if you have a leak. It does cool well, but is illegal to use it.
Some where is my pile of stuff here on the desk, I ran across a picture of a vehicle that had a leak and fire, think it was a 240Z or one of those. At work we had a pictire of a Toyota 4 runner that the guy placed his accetelyne torches and there was an explosion, opened the car like a can opener. There is a guy on E-Bay, user name SYMBOLGUY. he has CD`s on the 123 & 126. I bought one for mounting the Paraelle flow condensor. They are more efficient than the stock one. I think a filter of some type can be inline incase the compressor fails. Charlie ☺
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I've heard of a person or two getting a parallel flow condenser from ackits.com. An inline filter would be a must.....
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works |
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***edit*** Upon reflection I over-reacted and owe DeliveryValve an apology. Not sure why that one made me bow up. DeliveryValve is a solid forum citizen and I apologize...... ![]() ![]()
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OK. OK. OK. I thought it would freak people out to see where they are from. ![]() Got you rallied up Jimmy! ![]() I'll take it down soon.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Envirosafe is compatible with oil from R134A or R12. Since you have to take your system apart anyway to retrofit, just use compressed air to blow the excess oils out of your system. R12 oil is still easy to get and in my opinion, it makes for a better lubricant. Envirosafe charges with the can upside down and goes in your system in a liquid form. Diesel engines do not have fuel anywhere near as flammable like gasoline or electrics for ignition. A good quality guage set is necessary since sight glass readings are meaningless here. Since it requires about 1/2 the energy to make it cool, a parallel condensor isn't necessary. Your fuel economy will be much better and your system will see a longer service life! ![]() |
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