junkyard euro 300d IP questions - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

lutzTD · #16 08-21-2008, 07:42 PM

this looks like a genuine euro turbo car. it is an 85. vin WDB1231301A232561

it had cloth interior but power windows and roof????? MPH speedo, euro bumpers and US lights. Auto trans. here are some pics.

Alastair · #17 08-21-2008, 07:58 PM

Yup, Thats a PES 55 M pump....

Ive never seen a MW pump in these parts!

Wonder why they used a different pump for the U.S cars....?

lutzTD · #18 08-21-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alastair

Yup, Thats a PES 55 M pump....

Ive never seen a MW pump in these parts!

Wonder why they used a different pump for the U.S cars....?

is that good or bad? I hope to trade this for something I need

Johnhef · #19 08-21-2008, 08:16 PM

lol!

guys, thats a 300D non-turbo with a turbo bolted to it! wonder if thats why its in the junkyard ??

lutzTD · #20 08-21-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnhef

lol!

guys, thats a 300D non-turbo with a turbo bolted to it! wonder if thats why its in the junkyard ??

it had some work done. the IP had a punch and the block had a punch and you could see it was advanced slightly. someone was trying to make a race car

are those manifolds worth anything? I was tempted to pull those after the bumpers but they kicked me out at 6pm

lutzTD · #21 08-21-2008, 08:35 PM

VINWDB1231301A232561Model300 DChassis1231301A232561Engine617912 12 162200Transmission722405 02 167846Order0 4 229 10401Approx. year1984LightsHELLACab08872DealerStuttgart branch (229) Interiorcloth galaxy blue (052) Paint929nautical blue metallic (с 01.01.1984)Options410electric sliding roof (с 01.03.1965 по 29.02.1988)
420automatic transmission, floor shift (с 01.01.1963)
466central locking system (с 01.04.1970 по 31.10.1993)
504outside rear view mirror, right, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978 по 29.02.1986)
outside rear view mirror, right, electrically adjustable (l.h.d.)
taxi version, f.r.g, and outside rear view mirror on the right
584electric window lifters (front and rear doors) (с 01.04.1970)
electric window lifters, fourfold or sixfold
591heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane, (single-sheet safety glass), Germany
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, single pane safety glass - Germany (с 01.01.1972)

pizzachef · #22 08-21-2008, 08:36 PM

I'm pretty sure my euro wagon doesn't have an M pump. Mine looks like most others I've seen out there. Its a turbo and an auto.

DeliveryValve · #23 08-21-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lutzTD

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are those manifolds worth anything? I was tempted to pull those after the bumpers but they kicked me out at 6pm

No. That is one hacked, jacked up intake manifold! What is up with the additional inlet on the top! All that forced air is going to go out through it.

lutzTD · #24 08-21-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryValve

No. That is one hacked, jacked up intake manifold! What is up with the additional inlet on the top! All that forced air is going to go out through it.

it looked like it went back into the inside portion of the filter housing with a valve of some kind on the bottom of the housing. to be honest I didnt think about it because I was hurrying to get the IP and the bumpers before they closed.

85chedeng300D · #25 08-21-2008, 10:40 PM

Sorry for my ignorance but what is the difference between a standard Bosch IP and A M-Pump? Aside from I didn't see an ALDA on the M-Pump? ...and what are the advantages of an M-Pump? I'm jsut curious why the GURUs liked having this kind of pump.....

winmutt · #26 08-22-2008, 02:34 AM

M pump is more easily modified. It was also used on the om60X line. I could drive my NA euro at 110mph all day. My NA Fed was like 95 max with needle buried.

#27 08-25-2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by daw_two

The hardest part I found in removing an IP from a 603 was that the nut holding the front part to the chain (?) was reverse thread; CW to loosen.

No need to do that on the 61x. Remove the mounting bolts and fuel hardware and it slides straight out. Don't even need to remove the vacuum pump.

As winmutt pointed out, the m-pump has more performance parts available for it that can pump enough fuel to produce more than 140hp. You should be able to get at least $250 for a used M-pump, even up to $1000 if you find the right buyer that wants it bad enough.

That exhaust manifold can be valuable too since it does not have the EGR port.

bgkast · #28 08-25-2008, 11:00 AM

I'll give you $100.

lutzTD · #29 08-25-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

No need to do that on the 61x. Remove the mounting bolts and fuel hardware and it slides straight out. Don't even need to remove the vacuum pump.

As winmutt pointed out, the m-pump has more performance parts available for it that can pump enough fuel to produce more than 140hp. You should be able to get at least $250 for a used M-pump, even up to $1000 if you find the right buyer that wants it bad enough.

That exhaust manifold can be valuable too since it does not have the EGR port.

yeh, I removed the radiator, fan, and then the vacuum pump, then removed the center bolt on the vacuum pump, (thoroughly confused since it was right hand thread) then couldnt find the bolts for the pump. so i looked again

and then removed the nuts and pulled it off. I will know next time........

ImBroke · #30 08-25-2008, 04:12 PM

Perfect timing for this thread. I'm here (undisclosed location.. lol) and I see these two different looking ip's. I wanted to know if I should pull them, and it appears I should pull at least the one that looks like an M pump. Any guesses at the other one? They are both 300d's, the M is on an 85 Euro, and the other one is on one that I don't remember. Thanks. Needed a 13mm wrench, and a 17mm.

The other one looks to be from a NA vehicle. Nevermind on that one, but I should definitely pull the other one, right?

Update. Got the M pump pulled, and shipped home. Hopefully I can beat UPS.