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The timing device looks exactly like GSXR's photos, presumably the drive operating mechanism/method is the same, although the timing device part numbers are probably different for a 606. The vacuum pump appears to be identical to those in this thread.
Rgds, Chris W. |
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The 1995 E300 (124.131 chassis) with 606.910 engine still used the old style pump - unfortunatley. :( |
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Sorry to hear about your predicament. I'd say this is an advanced DIY project. A few special tools are needed, nothing expensive, but you'd want to plan on the job taking a week or two... pretty likely you'll run into some problem or another and have to wait a few days for parts, etc. The procedure for the 606 engine is here. However that procedure is pretty cryptic... the 603 procedure is much more detailed (and should be very, very similar)... click here to read that one. You need to pull the valve cover off, unscrew chain tensioner, mark & remove the cam sprocket, allow the chain to pull into the cavity, pull the dowel pin out of the cover so the chain can unhook from the timer sprocket, and wiggle it out of there. And of course you'll have to take off the fan clutch, serp belt, etc to access the pump. Don't forget to clean out the oil pan... since your 606 doesn't have the side-access sump like the 602/603, this will be a real challenge. All I can think of is pulling the level sensor out, and using a magnet on the end of a flexible stalk to try and pull pieces out. Even then, there will be non-magnetic item which could be left behind. When it's done, I'd put in some cheap dino oil and run that for a couple hundred miles as a "rinse", then change it again with your normal oil. In the meantime, call your indy & ask for a quote... I can already tell you the vac pump (000-230-31-65) is $300-$325, and the timing device (605-070-06-45) is about $300 wholesale. Plus misc parts, gaskets, seals, & fluid. Then add about 8-10 hours labor on top of that. Wouldn't surprise me if the estimate was on the wrong side of $1500... :sick3: |
Thanks Dave, exactly the info I was looking for. I have the vac pump and gasket already. Yesterday was a bummer - with fingers crossed I was happy as I pulled the old vac pump with surprisingly little trouble, I did not even have to take the fan or fan clutch off, but when I saw the timing device I was bummed.
I will call my indy now - while I think I could do this I don't have the time and I need the car back asap. Rgds, Chris W. |
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Chris: I have done this on my 603 engine, and I consider myself a competent DIYer. I have no idea how different a 606 may be.
You should acquire a manual for this job, would help a lot, and if you plan to keep the car for a while, will save you a lot of money. I may have some notes on my repair if you decide to do it yourself. Doug Q |
Ok I just ran into this thread. Now I am scared poopless about my pump failing in the 603.
Let me know if this plan of action is a good/bad idea. My 87 300D has about 160k indicated but the odometer does not work. I have no history on the car. I think I should pull the vac pump and look for a date code. I should also inspect it the best I can. I want to start the car without the pump installed to see if a "lifter" noise goes away. As long as the pump is not original AND it looks ok I will reinstall it. I understand a new pump is about $300 so I will stash some money away for a new one soon. sound good? |
Do Not Start Engine without Vacuum Pump attached !
The mess (OIL) it makes WILL BE the least of your problems !
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Ashedd: Your plan seems feasible, however you really want to err on the side of caution.
Some experts suggest replacing the pump at 100,000 to 150,000 miles. On your ticking if you are using conventional oil it is probably from the cam followers. Switch to Mobil 1 synthetic and it will likely go away. My 87 300tdt had that issue and Mobil 1 did the trick. Good luck. Doug Q |
I pulled my VP off my 602.911 and it has 247K. I guess I have been lucky. It is is the original open-ball bearing style. I am in the process of rebuilding the top end and have decided to dig deep for funds to replace as a result of numerous threads on this forum including this one. Probably should have factored in VP R&R from the beginning since its a "while you're in there" item.
The Pierburg at AllParts Express has the dam(n) style gasket pictured. I am hoping to just slap the new one on where the old one was. |
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thanks everyone, I will take a look see tomorrow. After my 300sd rear brake job :rolleyes:
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Is vacuum pump failure something to be concerned about on the W201 OM601 engines?
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Looks like one more item to worry about: I am guessing that any 603.97 series motor that has anything more than 100K on it should probably have the pump replaced as a matter of maintenance . If they suddenly fail, looks like big money and time to repair . So in interest of preventing a costly failure, I am looking at replacing the pump on my soon to be here 603.97 3.5 litre. Question: are all of the newer pumps from MB going to be an updated, not-so-prone -to failure item ? Is there any source for an OEM pump to save some money ? Any info appreciated .
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