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Old 09-23-2008, 11:18 PM
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Unhappy 300CD: Yep, ignition tumbler turns no more

Well, it finally happened. Wife drove the car about 8 miles away and there it sits. Ignition tumbler won't move. From the looks of the details of the removal/replacement job (for tumbler not turning) in the Haynes manual, this problem is no joy to fix. I can't seem to find the job in any of the factory manuals - is it there?

Looks like www.dieselgiant.com has a lengthy and helpful write-up. Anything anyone would like to add? I'd sure appreciate the help. I replaced the cylinder head on this vehicle and survived it successfully (so did the car, thankfully), so hopefully I can handle this one successfully. Looks like I'll have to get the vehicle towed back home. With the steering wheel locked, will I have to have it put on the truck's bed? Or just lift up the front wheels?

I'll gratefully accept any advice on this one. Thanks-
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:25 PM
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This just happened on my 84 SD- with a 123 tumbler in the 126 steering lock. My friend had the car at the time and sprayed wd40 in the lock and let it sit for awhile and went back later to try it and sure enough, got it to turn.

If you get it to turn again, by all means do not remove that key unless you're taking the tumbler out with it!

my SD now has the matching ignition tumbler in it as well now, finally!
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:41 PM
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I'll go try WD-40

Thanks for the tip on this. I'm leaving now to go put some WD-40 in tonight and then try it tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:24 AM
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yesterday I went by the dealer and tried to order a new tumbler for the one twenty three and he said my vin was no good. I looked again and found that the number I gave him was correct.

Anybody had this experience?

Tom W
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:54 AM
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VIN and Tumbler

TW,

Something is screwed up at the dealer level
(Mis-entered your VIN...Off in Inner Space...Who knows?)
If it's the Aluminum Tag at the A pillar and "They" won't take it,they're wrong.

Call the Nice Folks at 1-800 222-0100 And I'll bet they will recognize your VIN.

DOGGUY,

Act of desperation...A member had luck with a hand sander...'clamped the key in the sander and then successfully turned the key to the correct position for
tumbler removal.(Vibrations are not all Evil)
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:57 AM
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Act of desperation...A member had luck with a hand sander...'clamped the key in the sander and then successfully turned the key to the correct position for
tumbler removal.(Vibrations are not all Evil)
You know why this worked right? look up bump-9 on youtube. There are some really cool videos on cutting broken MB/BMW, etc tumblers out.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:58 PM
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yesterday I went by the dealer and tried to order a new tumbler for the one twenty three and he said my vin was no good. I looked again and found that the number I gave him was correct.

Anybody had this experience?

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Old 10-06-2008, 04:31 PM
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yesterday I went by the dealer and tried to order a new tumbler for the one twenty three and he said my vin was no good. I looked again and found that the number I gave him was correct.

Anybody had this experience?

Tom W
Yep,my "79" 240 vin indicates I can not get a key and tumbler to match the rest of the locks in the car. I checked two MB dealers, "NA" so I bought the generic tumbler.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:43 PM
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I've got a full matching lockset from an '80 euro 300D.... L & R doors (tumblers are still in the door handles), ignition, trunk AND locking fuel cap, 2 keys (one factory, one not) w/ an expired registration paper so that you can order more keys from the dealer, (I've already done this successfully) for $80 + ship, PM if interested.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:59 PM
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Usually disassembling the whole thing and spraying the steering lock pin with wd40 takes care of the job for me.
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:59 PM
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To test if the problem is the tumbler or steering lock you can remove the tumbler and try to operate it in your hand. If it works properly then the issue is in the lock mechanism.
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