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Old 11-06-2008, 09:27 AM
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Valve Adjustment

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What is the normal cost to adjust the valves? I went in to the local shop and was surprised to hear it will take two days and cost $200.00. Is this guy off his rocker or is that reasonable? Thanks.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:47 AM
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The two days part is probably due to them wanting to have the engine ' stone cold'...which is proper... with practice and the proper tools and no surprises...it is a couple of hours...
Of course you posted on a forum which leans towards doing it themselves.... tools are a one time cost... but you will need regular setting of the valves... so the longer you have it the more you will have saved... leaving off the fact that you will know exactly whether it was done correctly ( hopefully ).... LOL
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Mine had it overnight also and charged 2 hours @ $60/hour and changed the return lines at the same time. Actual time was probably just a little over an hour but the valves were in pretty good shape and didn't require much adjustment. An estimate of 2 hours which allows for problems seems reasonable to me. Remember they have to remove several items in order to remove the cover and then reassemble.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:30 AM
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I recently adjusted my own on my 300D. It was my first time and I was more than a little nervous. Cost me about $25 for a gasket from Diesel Giant. $10 for a couple of 14 mm wrenches that I had to heat and bend to fit into the spaces. Took me way too long (maybe 5 hours) but next time will be much quicker. It wasn't hard to do, thanks to tutorial from Diesel Giant and a post in the archives about how to fashion the wrenches.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:05 PM
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I recently adjusted my own on my 300D. It was my first time and I was more than a little nervous. Cost me about $25 for a gasket from Diesel Giant. $10 for a couple of 14 mm wrenches that I had to heat and bend to fit into the spaces. Took me way too long (maybe 5 hours) but next time will be much quicker. It wasn't hard to do, thanks to tutorial from Diesel Giant and a post in the archives about how to fashion the wrenches.
I have to make a new set as I used "chepo' wrenches and one has spread to 15+mm eek:. Did you use just a propane tourch? Oh crap, the lights are flickering
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:27 PM
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I have to make a new set as I used "chepo' wrenches and one has spread to 15+mm eek:. Did you use just a propane tourch? Oh crap, the lights are flickering
I used a cutting torch (acetylene and oxy) for a few seconds and bent them as directed in the archives of this site. Not good enough with a computer to direct anyone to that posting - but if I can dig it up, anyone can. Note that the orientation of the jaws of the wrenches are opposite. It was still difficult for me to work around the injector lines.


Also, I found it a bit difficult to turn the engine with the power steering pump alone. But with a little pull on the belts plus a wrench on the power steering pump, it wasn't too difficult.

Thirdly, I found it easier to make a drawing on a sheet of paper and adjust the valves as the cam brought them up, rather than working front to back. Just gotta make notes and keep distractions to a minimum
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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by the third time you do it, it should be about 45 minutes, w/ some proper wrenches.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:32 AM
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For me, the hardest part is removing the fan and shroud so I can turn the engine w/the crank shaft bolt from above. The DIY valve adjust is pretty easy.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:44 AM
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does anybody have the valve sequence guide?

i lost the thread that had the file.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:52 AM
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Just look at the manifolds.
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Haynes has it. I do not remember if the front most valve is exhaust or intake.

If exhaust it would be EI IE EI IE EI. If intake is first, then it would be IE EI IE EI IE.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:55 AM
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Go to dieselgiant.com. There is a pdf you can download.
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i know the order, and the color of the stem seals is a good indicator too. It begins with exhaust.

I was looking for the sequence when turning, Beginning at any point, the next lobe to be perpendicular is noted on the sheet to eliminate guesswork and save time/ aggravation and poor organization.
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the color of the stem seals is a good indicator too.
That can not be trusted on an old car ( some PO's are not all that careful..)... and I think the FSM says that exhaust seals will be all that is available for replacement.... and that was years ago...
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:03 PM
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Just start at the front and work back. It's too much of a headache to skip around.
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