123/126 front sway bar saver - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

sixto · #1 11-24-2008, 05:12 PM

I've been out of the 123/126 circuit for a while now. Not sure if folks know of this sway bar saver from Baum Tools -

QP1000 Torsion Bar Saver W123, W126 S-Class
QP1000 Torsion Bar Saver W123, W126 S-Class

Sixto
87 300D

jt20 · #2 11-24-2008, 05:14 PM

yes. Even fastlane had them for a while.

rrgrassi · #3 11-24-2008, 06:00 PM

Welding on a heat treated piece of metal damages the original heat treatment.

tobybul · #4 03-11-2009, 10:01 PM

Has anyone tried this? Mine broke today and this will really be handy.

Diesel911 · #5 03-12-2009, 12:10 AM

In stead of welding it use a high quality tough Epoxy like JB Weld; but make sure to not the curing temp. If it is cold out side use a Hair dryer or something to keep it warm. You can actually cure it at 250 degrees F. Avoid the 5 min type Epoxy for anything that gets hot or stressed.

Here is a non-welding option:
Swaybar repair pictoral, 300SD

tobybul · #6 03-12-2009, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel911

In stead of welding it use a high quality tough Epoxy like JB Weld; but make sure to not the curing temp. If it is cold out side use a Hair dryer or something to keep it warm. You can actually cure it at 250 degrees F. Avoid the 5 min type Epoxy for anything that gets hot or stressed.

Here is a non-welding option:
Swaybar repair pictoral, 300SD

D911, IMO, JB Weld cannot substitute for welding. This would be like night-and-day. Its a non-metallic compund vs a metallic compound on an area that sees shock and vibration. I don't think it will hold up.

pawoSD · #7 03-12-2009, 09:21 AM

You never know, JB Weld has been used to repair engine blocks!

Here is a link to our project:

W126 The EPIC has BEGUN... Project "Sway" is Underway!

DeliveryValve · #8 03-12-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobybul

Has anyone tried this? Mine broke today and this will really be handy.

I am interested in hearing if it works.
But, if you decide to replace the whole thing, you may want to consider installing a thicker TD (wagon) sway bar for an improvement in handling.

tobybul · #9 03-12-2009, 10:55 AM

I am now tempted to try Pete Burton's method.... or at the least, the QP1000 method. But I'll weld mine if I do that.

Diesel911 · #10 03-12-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobybul

D911, IMO, JB Weld cannot substitute for welding. This would be like night-and-day. Its a non-metallic compund vs a metallic compound on an area that sees shock and vibration. I don't think it will hold up.

As stated before welding can crystalize the metal making it brittle and more pron to breakage.

The success of the JB Weld would depend on how much clearance there is between the repair and the Sway Bar. Epoxy is thick so the repair sleeve would need to easily slide over the end but not have much side play. A small channel would need to be made on the Sway Bar end to allow air/Eopcy to be squeesed out.

The other choice might be 420 degree F melting point Silver Bearing Solder. However, the clearance would need to be a tight fit to begin with. But, 420 degrees will not damge the tempering of the Sway/Torsion bar.

tobybul · #11 03-13-2009, 10:13 AM

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=91042&p=3&topicID=17140497

Heres a link to some pics showing the torsion bar saver welded to the bar....

bgkast · #12 03-13-2009, 03:05 PM

I would think brazing it on would work fine if it is a good fit on the sway bar. There is not any real force trying to pull it off the sway bar.

compu_85 · #13 12-11-2012, 10:34 PM

I had this kit installed on my car last week.

Not what you want to find:

Driving the car felt like trying to hula hoop on jello. The steering would dart all over the place when you applied the brake.

I decided to replace both sides. Bar cut off with a portable band saw:

The new ends fit tightly on the bar:

Welded in place:

I'm very pleased with the quality of this kit.

-J

Mark Rapier · #14 12-11-2012, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compu_85

I had this kit installed on my car last week.

Not what you want to find:

Driving the car felt like trying to hula hoop on jello. The steering would dart all over the place when you applied the brake.

I decided to replace both sides. Bar cut off with a portable band saw:

The new ends fit tightly on the bar:

Welded in place:

I'm very pleased with the quality of this kit.

-J

That's a pretty weld bead right there!

t walgamuth · #15 12-12-2012, 05:29 AM

x2