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The turbo lag is your alda assuming 2.5T's had them. Either a switchover valve, clogged line or misadjusted alda. i had the SAME EXACT lag problem with my 300D. It would be a snail until 20mph then it would pull.
You need to simplify the vac system like many of us do. Rip out everything and start new. You need vac to the throttle transmission vac modulator (and connect that to the transmission). Then run a seperate vacuum line to your in-cabin vacuum lines, keeping them on a seperate vac feed than the transmission. Disregard all other vacuum parts. BUT i could be wrong. I'm assuming the basics of the cars vacuum are like a 123 or 126. Then using the modulator adjust your shifting till its perfect.
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Looks like the EGR vac amp. You can remove it before you remove the EGR valve. Make sure to plug the supply line where it comes off the engine vacuum pump.
turbobenz is more able than I am (no mean feat to be more able than I am ![]() The attached vacuum diagrams might help. Sixto 87 300D |
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Do a search on stop lever o-ring.
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thanks for the advice, i read up on the stop lever leaking and after looking at my IP i can see that mine is leaking. Also the others mentioned that you have a surging at idle, which i also have. this should be a fun fix, thanks for pointing me in the right directions.
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As for the VCV on the IP, the aft port should get vacuum from the engine vacuum pump, the forward port should have attached the green cylinder (last picture). The other end of the green cylinder either goes directly to the driver side of the transmission or to a device near the driver side strut tower.
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you lucky dog, i always wanted a 190D 2.5 Turbo, but its hard to find one
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That 'fuel' filter is really for air; mine is exactly the same and the MB service guy says it is normal. I will look in my car to see where the brown hose goes.
Congratulations on your purchase, it is a nice looking car. You should be able to iron out the little problems with info from this forum.
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Look for a set of factory service manuals for the W201/OM602 series in hardcopy on eBay or www.books4cars.com or settle for atrociously poor scans on CD. You can get the FSM on CD through the FastLane link at the top of this page. Expect to pay about 10 times as much for hardcopy.
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My '87 190D turbo had plenty of guts off the line with all vacuum lines stock except for the EGR vacuum line plugged. It would spin the tires on some dry pavement, if I took off hard and hit a painted white line it would always light 'em up. Get it running properly, perhaps the ALDA needs adjustment/replacement, but IMO there's no need to rip out the vacuum lines and re-design it.
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tranny dipstick
Ok, so i have been working on the car the last few days, and found something new today. the tranny dip stick is Black and says "MB Work Shop Only!"
It does not seem to be the right one, because i can barely pull it out and put it back in. it gets stuck and i really have to force it in. This makes me not want to mess with the tranny fluid level right now, as i dont know if i even have the right one. i have attached a picture of it can anyone comment on what theirs looks like? ![]()
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drove it with Vacuum T
i just drove around and was checking out the vacuum that was going to the Transmission via a T. When idling, i have show 18, but as soon as i push the pedal down to drive, it will go down to >10 (usually 8) and stay there until the shift. once it tries to shift, i just slips and revs up, then the vacuum goes up to ~20 and then once the gear is engaged, will drop back down to below 10. once i am traveling in gear 3 or 4, the vacuum will slowly creep up and then hold at 15.
does this sound normal?? also, here is the link to the tranny dip stick being pulled out and put back in. with a MB# of 140... makes me think it is for a W140 not my W201. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-OmLbQrTY (might take a second for Youtube to finish processing the video)
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Well... i looked at the EPC program from Mercedes and it says i have the correct dip stick... wow.
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The VCV that hangs off the IP modulates vacuum to the transmission - high vacuum under light throttle to soften shifts, low vacuum under heavy throttle for crisp shifts. That's a simplification but you can think of it that way. The vacuum amplifier further complicates/fine tunes the vacuum signal by applying derivatives of VCV vacuum and ALDA boost.
Sixto 87 300D |
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The rev and slip when attempting to shift is typically called flaring. Can be caused by an improperly set vacuum modulator, worn clutches necessitating a tranny rebuild, or worn springs and plungers in the valve body. Properly setting the vacuum modulator requires fitting a pressure gauge to the tranny. In your case I'd move the adjustment handle one or two notches CW to firm the shifts. Keep track of how much you moved it! Chances are other shifts will be too firm. You might try a $50-60 Superior spring kit before a replacing or rebuilding the tranny.
Check the two links at the end of my soliloquy in the first post - springtime for tranny Sixto 87 300D |
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