Why don't women like Diesels cars?? - Page 4 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

MBNRA · #46 02-07-2009, 04:21 PM

Women of true class will love a Diesel Mercedes Benz!

JimmyL · #47 02-07-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MBNRA

Women of true class will love a Diesel Mercedes Benz!

I'm afraid you'll need to cite your sources for that info.......

oldiesel · #48 02-07-2009, 08:30 PM

My wife loves our diesel cars,very simple reason MILES PER DOLLAR!

bio350 · #49 02-08-2009, 11:01 AM

My wife loves her 300SD (W140). She really liked it when the engine was going out. Not only was she going slower than normal but she didn't have to worry about the looks from people behind her because she couldn't see them through all the smoke.
Now that it has the new/old engine in it, she just goes slow.
She grew up with her dad working on his old 300D's every weekend, now she helps me work on ours. And yes, the smell of 'veggies' burning is much better than a dead animal.

tami · #50 02-08-2009, 11:11 AM

I originally wanted a little diesel TRUCK but here in the US they're damn near impossible to find. Isuzu was the most-imported, and they and the other couple brands all get grabbed up as soon as they're advertised.

So Husband suggests a Merc wagon which will serve similar purposes to the truck and will be 'findable'

So I'm thinking, holy cats, here I go in the soccer-mom-mobile.

Sheeeit.

I love it. It's simple, so I can work on it (the little v6 Ranger was too complicated) not that I need to 'cause Stella is purdy dang dependable. An like the man said, it's got that funky kewl vibe.

What I canNOT stand is these SUV crap.

YMMV,
tami

MBNRA · #51 02-08-2009, 11:18 AM

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I'm afraid you'll need to cite your sources for that info.......

http://www.mbff.com.au/ I like the one in red myself!

aklim · #52 02-08-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oldiesel

My wife loves our diesel cars,very simple reason MILES PER DOLLAR!

But what if the fuel cost was the same? Fuel aside, there is no way either of us would go diesel. If we were closer to work like we intend to be at some point, we would never get another diesel. Our truck has to be diesel because I need forced induction for towing especially at high altitudes and it is expensive to put a supercharger and intercooler onto a gas vehicle.

MBNRA · #53 02-08-2009, 11:31 AM

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But what if the fuel cost was the same? Fuel aside, there is no way either of us would go diesel. If we were closer to work like we intend to be at some point, we would never get another diesel. Our truck has to be diesel because I need forced induction for towing especially at high altitudes and it is expensive to put a supercharger and intercooler onto a gas vehicle.

When compared side by side, a gas engine and a diesel engine will operate very differently and a diesel would be more expensive when diesel hits $5.22 a gallon! A gas engine is only 28% efficient while a diesel is 52% efficient. A diesel engine will outlast a gas engine by 3 to 1 or in most cases, even better!

aklim · #54 02-08-2009, 11:56 AM

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When compared side by side, a gas engine and a diesel engine will operate very differently and a diesel would be more expensive when diesel hits $5.22 a gallon! A gas engine is only 28% efficient while a diesel is 52% efficient.

A diesel engine will outlast a gas engine by 3 to 1 or in most cases, even better!

That large of a difference? So why is my E300 not getting twice the mpg of an E320?

I know in the past you would pay more for a diesel engine too. I know that when I bought my powerstroke, it was about $6000 more for the diesel option

lkchris · #55 02-08-2009, 12:49 PM

Women are smart, that's why.

The old bangers are just obsolete hobbiest toys.

My wife loves her E320CDI. Loves the power and the quickness.

aklim · #56 02-08-2009, 12:54 PM

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Loves the power and the quickness.

I think that is comparing apples with oranges. Only because it has forced induction is it that way. Take that away or level the playing field and gas will tear diesel a new one. There is a vast difference between say a NA 606 and a turbo 606. One is unbearable and the other is tolerable after it is chipped. Take the gas one and stuff a supercharger in it and watch it go.

BodhiBenz1987 · #57 02-08-2009, 12:59 PM

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Women are smart, that's why.

The old bangers are just obsolete hobbiest toys.

They make perfectly fine daily transportation for plenty of people, although admittedly for a lot of people it is more of a hobby. If you want to have one for a daily driver, chances are you better be willing to get your hands dirty every once in a while. A lot of women (and men) don't want to do that or simply don't have the time.

If there's one thing I can say for myself, it's that I'm smart ... and I'm one of the women who does like old diesels. It has nothing to do with intelligence ... it's just about what your interests and tastes are. Most women aren't really into rough-and-tumble motoring, and most women aren't into wrenching, which you basically have to do with any 25-year-old car.

BodhiBenz1987 · #58 02-08-2009, 01:03 PM

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I think that is comparing apples with oranges. Only because it has forced induction is it that way. Take that away or level the playing field and gas will tear diesel a new one. There is a vast difference between say a NA 606 and a turbo 606. One is unbearable and the other is tolerable after it is chipped. Take the gas one and stuff a supercharger in it and watch it go.

For one, turbocharging a diesel engine is more practical than turbocharging a diesel engine. Also, diesels do have more low-end torque, which I think plenty of people would tell you they can feel (well, in a powerful diesel ... can't say I really feel it in the 240D). I'm not saying everyone should drive diesels ... I really don't care. But they wouldn't make diesel engines if they didn't have some advantages.

aklim · #59 02-08-2009, 01:10 PM

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But they wouldn't make diesel engines if they didn't have some advantages.

Yes, they have towing advantages and mpg advantages. We bought a diesel truck because we have a heavy RV to tow. Gas could not have done it without severe modifications like a supercharger and intercooler which was more expensive than the diesel truck upgrade would have been.

The E300 has the advantage of higher mpg which was why we bought it when we figured to travel about 150 miles a day, 5 days a week. OTOH, if we lived 20 mins away from work, the advantage would be much less.

The disadvantage see is that the pumps are dirty, which is why I wear disposable gloves to fuel up and the floor is dirty, something which is hard to fix. Also, at the fuel station, you are a 2nd class citizen when compared to gas. This winter, my diesel gelled. I haven't had gas gel up before. Also, fuel is harder to find as not every fuel stop has diesel while every fuel stop has gas.

It is worth it? As long as we have to travel 150 miles a day, sure. IF we travel 20 miles a day, is it worth the hassle? I think not.

In short, diesel to me is an "It depends" on the circumcision.

BodhiBenz1987 · #60 02-08-2009, 03:11 PM

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The disadvantage see is that the pumps are dirty, which is why I wear disposable gloves to fuel up and the floor is dirty, something which is hard to fix. Also, at the fuel station, you are a 2nd class citizen when compared to gas. This winter, my diesel gelled. I haven't had gas gel up before. Also, fuel is harder to find as not every fuel stop has diesel while every fuel stop has gas.

I agree on the hard-to-find part, although I have to say the diesel pumps around here aren't really any more dirty than the gas pumps. The one I usually go to is nice ... the diesel pump is separate, so fewer people in my way and often it's not being used ... unless there's an ambulance or box truck filling up, which means a long wait. Usually pretty clean though. Although certainly I've been to truck stops where you need to take six or seven showers after using the diesel pump ...