My version of manual glow plugs. - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Stevo · #16 02-12-2009, 05:25 PM

I like the "push button" system, its tidy and simple, the light is wired in and I used #10 multi stranded wire from the GPs to the solenoid, I'll change the "85" to manual if the relay goes south.

H-townbenzoboy · #17 02-12-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL

#1 Fix glow plug circuit correctly
#2 Continue to fix glow plug circuit correctly
#3 Find very inexpensive parts to fix glow plug circuit correctly
#4 Install very inexpensive parts to fix glow plug circuit correctly
#5 Enjoy a properly fixed glow plug circuit for years to come

Jimmy, that's waaay too simple! Why use what the engineers spent lots of time of money in R&D designing when you can cobble up something? These guys designed Mercedes-Benzes, the epitome of vehicular engineering, it's not like they knew what they were doing anyway.

kerry · #18 02-12-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy

Jimmy, that's waaay too simple! Why use what the engineers spent lots of time of money in R&D designing when you can cobble up something? These guys designed Mercedes-Benzes, the epitome of vehicular engineering, it's not like they knew what they were doing anyway.

Like the servo system. Everyone knows that couldn't be improved upon with a manual system.

JimmyL · #19 02-12-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy

Jimmy, that's waaay too simple! Why use what the engineers spent lots of time of money in R&D designing when you can cobble up something? These guys designed Mercedes-Benzes, the epitome of vehicular engineering, it's not like they knew what they were doing anyway.

Yep, but those same engineers killed our argument with CCUII and CCUIII!! What we wouldn't give for manual AC controls!! But I wouldn't favor a hacked ACC system any more than a hacked glow plug system. And the glow plug system is so easy....

sethyboy85 · #20 02-13-2009, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sethyboy85

It wasn't written for cookie cutter

So since I wanted manual anyway I should figure out if my ignition switch contact went south for the GP? crikey my car has almost 400k and I think my manual setup is going to outlast the rest of the car. Unlike you old guys on this forum who think Mercedes were made by god's I keep in mind they were human and made mistakes.

I also in no way make any modifications that jeopardize the safety of anyone to my car.

If somebody needs to start their car and the relay goes south I think this would be just fine and cheap till they can remedy it, also if the glowplugs don't heat up with this setup... it's pretty simple to fix.

sethyboy85 · #21 02-13-2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by H-townbenzoboy

Jimmy, that's waaay too simple! Why use what the engineers spent lots of time of money in R&D designing when you can cobble up something? These guys designed Mercedes-Benzes, the epitome of vehicular engineering, it's not like they knew what they were doing anyway.

You both sorta missed MY point to this, I wanted a manual setup.

bgkast · #22 02-13-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Like the servo system. Everyone knows that couldn't be improved upon with a manual system.

Luckily Chrysler designed that bit of goodness.

#23 02-13-2009, 04:55 AM

A push button would be the ideal prevention to leaving them on, but I need to multitask. Turn up the idle knob, check the shifter is in neutral and roll down the windows (in summer).

I'd like to wire the glowplug relay wire to the seatbelt buzzer but I just haven't gotten around to it. RadioShack sells loud 12v buzzers that would work very well too.

IndianaJo · #24 02-13-2009, 05:27 AM

jimmy L said "#1 Fix glow plug circuit correctly
#2 Continue to fix glow plug circuit correctly
#3 Find very inexpensive parts to fix glow plug circuit correctly
#4 Install very inexpensive parts to fix glow plug circuit correctly"
I bought a glow plug relay from fastlane to fix my w123 which was timing correctly but not making contact. It was nearly $100. It came with wires for 12 ga crimp terminals, kind of stupid in my experience for 80 amps. 10 ga crimp terminals are rated about 30 amps. No MB connector supplied. Also the color code diagram they supplied did not match my car. I was supposed to cut the plug off the benz harness and splice in these wires. Stupid, I never installed it. I'm sure not going to use scotch blocks (push on tees) on 80 amps. I'm using a $12 ford starter relay with screw terminals now, big 6 ga lugs crimped on wires rated 50 amps, timed by the mb glow plug relay light circuit from a scotch block. I'm using the fusable link on the dead relay for power, so it is still fused.

Stevo · #25 02-13-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

A push button would be the ideal prevention to leaving them on, but I need to multitask. Turn up the idle knob, check the shifter is in neutral and roll down the windows (in summer).

I'd like to wire the glowplug relay wire to the seatbelt buzzer but I just haven't gotten around to it. RadioShack sells loud 12v buzzers that would work very well too.

What you need is a "foot" switch, the kind that was used for dimming the headlights

yellit · #26 02-13-2009, 10:22 AM

Foot Switch.......That's it.....
Momentary of course......
Hiddden up high in the footwell.....
Easy to use and out of the way....
You just solved my anti-theft glow switch location pondering.....
Great idea Stevo....!!

pawoSD · #27 02-13-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo

Afterglow,

If I need afterglow I dont need a new relay, I just push the button a little longer, the less "automatic systems" the less to go wrong

A relay is a pretty reliable device.....none of our cars have ever had it fail. I installed my afterglow relay 5.5 years ago....and it has never had an issue.

Also, VERY easy to troubleshoot, its the only component in the setup besides the glow plugs themselves!

Stevo · #28 02-13-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by yellit

Foot Switch.......That's it.....
Momentary of course......
Hiddden up high in the footwell.....
Easy to use and out of the way....
You just solved my anti-theft glow switch location pondering.....
Great idea Stevo....!!

LOL, you know, after I posted that, I got to thinking "WHY NOT" its "hands free', plenty stout, might just be a real good solution.

Stevo · #29 02-13-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

A relay is a pretty reliable device.....none of our cars have ever had it fail. I installed my afterglow relay 5.5 years ago....and it has never had an issue.

Also, VERY easy to troubleshoot, its the only component in the setup besides the glow plugs themselves!

I certainly wouldn't advocate throwing out a working relay/afterglow but after driving my car with push button GPs then getting in my 'relay" car, I find I like the push button system better.

Stevo · #30 02-13-2009, 11:55 AM

Heres one for $6 bucks

http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip,98358/initialAction,partProductDetail/initialpartType,00133/initialR,1853074/initialvehicleId,1744004/shopping/selectZip.htm