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Old 09-05-2009, 07:41 AM
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A/C Compressor Time...Any upgrades?

Since I have to swap it out anyway, is there any
better compressors that will bolt up and handle the S.FL.
heat a little better?

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Old 09-05-2009, 08:26 AM
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How did it fail? If it failed internally, you must disconnect ALL components and flush the debris out of the system THOROUGHLLY or your new compressor will be destroyed. Beyond that there are no upgrades necessary. If the system is properly cleaned, a fresh r/d installed, correct amount of oil distrubuted through components, evacuated and then charged with the CORRECT volume of R12, you will be cool, even in South Florida.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:34 PM
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Don't forget to clean the evaporator, one way or the other.
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:45 PM
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How did it fail? If it failed internally, you must disconnect ALL components and flush the debris out of the system THOROUGHLLY or your new compressor will be destroyed. Beyond that there are no upgrades necessary. If the system is properly cleaned, a fresh r/d installed, correct amount of oil distrubuted through components, evacuated and then charged with the CORRECT volume of R12, you will be cool, even in South Florida.
I just completed this task but I also replaced the expansion valve. Everything was put back to the way it came from the factory. Works almost as good as when new (I still have a bad pod to fix). 100 outside, less than 36 out the vent. One of the main reasons I've kept this car 26 years is because it's nice and cool in the hot Texas summer - gets colder faster than my newer cars!
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:40 PM
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I just completed this task but I also replaced the expansion valve. Everything was put back to the way it came from the factory. Works almost as good as when new (I still have a bad pod to fix). 100 outside, less than 36 out the vent. One of the main reasons I've kept this car 26 years is because it's nice and cool in the hot Texas summer - gets colder faster than my newer cars!
That is exceptional performance out of a W123!!! Enjoy that CR-T
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:27 PM
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My OE compressor blows ice cold in the south Florida heat. Fix yours right and it will too.

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Old 09-05-2009, 04:00 PM
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Diesel Giant has great A/C rebuild tutorial here:
http://www.dieselgiant.com/repairyourac.htm
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:28 PM
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Parallel Flow Condensor

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Old 09-05-2009, 11:12 PM
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^What size is our condenser anyways? I'm about to do some AC work to Norm, and I might order one.
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Old 09-06-2009, 01:30 AM
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To install a parallel-flow condenser, you will need to make new lines. It's not a bolt-in part.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:10 AM
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Don't waste your money on "upgrades." Fix it to stock specs, use R-12 and it will blow ice cold in the hotest and most humid of climates.

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Old 09-06-2009, 10:20 AM
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You don't have much choice on compressors other than build quality. I would expect all the R-4 units to compress pretty much the same way - which is sufficient with R-12 refrigerant.

The key is to use R-12 instead of R-134a.

The A/C system components just aren't designed with enough "margin" to allow the suitable use of the less efficient R-134a. Yes, it will cool with R-134a in moderate weather, but in really hot weather it will not do a good job.

Having to replace the compressor (where you need to flush the system anyway to clear out debris) is a good time to revert back to R-12 if your car was converted to R-134a.

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Old 09-06-2009, 01:17 PM
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You don't have much choice on compressors other than build quality. I would expect all the R-4 units to compress pretty much the same way - which is sufficient with R-12 refrigerant.

The key is to use R-12 instead of R-134a.

The A/C system components just aren't designed with enough "margin" to allow the suitable use of the less efficient R-134a. Yes, it will cool with R-134a in moderate weather, but in really hot weather it will not do a good job.

Having to replace the compressor (where you need to flush the system anyway to clear out debris) is a good time to revert back to R-12 if your car was converted to R-134a.

Ken300D
This is where the road splits. I was hoping for a better compressor to be able
to run r-134a with. It is much less expensive and much easier to find,
not to mention, I can do it myself.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:04 PM
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Its a one time fee to buy R-12 and then you are good to go for years. Chances are you won't even have the car by the time you need more R-12 for whatever reason. Just pay a couple hundred bucks to have a shop put in some R-12 and enjoy cold air conditioning for years.

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:47 PM
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I'm not sure I understand why you can do R-134a yourself, but not R-12.

For a supply of R-12, go to EBay and search on "R-12". It is abundant.

Of course, I have gone through the Certification process where you pay something like $20 and take an open-book test online. Well worth the effort.

http://www.epatest.com/609/

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