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Whether the car is on jacks or on the ground the sway bar should not be loaded if the wheels are even with each other.
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Hey, just floating ideas. I do not mean to pick on you. Besides by now it looks like the upside down idea does not float.
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ever done a swaybar off a w201/124? the brackets on the ends are attached to the 'uprights', which are attached to the LCA, which are attached to the springs and shocks. when on the ground, the LCA's are under load, and therefore so are the swaybars
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The original brackets were a weak design, and MB beefed them up. I would buy the new style brackets. See the photo below, the old version is on the left, the new version is on the right. I'm not sure when these were phased into production, but you might be able to snag some from a newer 124 at a salvage yard. To buy new, the brackets are $24 MSRP each. The upper plate was also changed, those are $5 each new.
The new style sway bar bushings have a teflon liner so the bushings don't bind against the bar (and they're quieter, too). Ideally you should only screw the nuts on half way with the car jacked up, then lower it to the ground, slide under on your back, and tighten them up with the full weight of the car on the wheels. This usually isn't required though. BTW - any chance you could post some photos of the carnage? I have the new-style brackets on my '87 Sportline and they have never shown any fatigue, even under hard use (i.e., impromptu autocrossing ) |
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that's only true if you have an astral silver 500e with a spoiler and tinted windows...
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I've never done a 124 sway bar so they could be different from all other sway bars I have ever seen or read of.
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not correct. like i said, the two end brackets are attached to the uprights, which attach to the lca. those tilt when the car is under load, and they transfer their load to the swaybar.
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The correct name is "torsion bar"... it resists twisting (torsion) under load, and it tries to equalize both sides. If both sides are at the same level, there is no torsion. |
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Well, seems we have a bit of a disagreement, which don't get me wrong is a good thing. That's how we learn. That being said, I always heard that any suspension part is supposed to be tightened up when the vehicle is in it's normal position, but... and that is a big but, I could be wrong about that and would take no offense in being so. I do know that the same bracket has broken three times now in three weeks and I am not sure I understand why.
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With the sway bar unhooked from the suspension on both sides you should be able to grab it and move one end up or down with your hand. If you cannot ...it is binding too much.
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So you say the inside diameter of the bushings are different? Well That would be the trouble then. They are too tight in the center.
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