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Old 01-30-2010, 08:45 PM
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block heater resistance

95 e300d block heater isn't working. been cold here in Northern VA. I used my multimeter and got a beep for continuity between blades on the plug. I checked resistance. Set multimeter to 2ohms. (When I touch the prongs I get .002 ohms.) When I touch the probes to the blades on the plug that comes from the block heater, I get .345 or so.

What does this mean?

My outlet works.

Got 2 bad glow plugs and the block heater was making the start up a lot easier.

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Old 01-30-2010, 11:01 PM
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From your numbers it appears your block heater coil has a resistance of .343 ohms.

No idea what the heater is supposed to read though.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:10 PM
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I believe the heater is about 400W, which means it should be about 36 ohms.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:26 PM
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Probably very low resistance when cold. Resistance would increase as it heats up.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:44 AM
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That .3 ohms is almost dead short. That's less than glow plug resistance.

Something isn't right here.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:37 AM
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Probably very low resistance when cold. Resistance would increase as it heats up.
Like cryogenics?

0.35 ohms is 41,000 watts! When pluuged in you should hear a popping sound and the circuit breaker will blow. 35 ohms is more like it. That's 410 watts, what the block heater is.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:46 AM
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let me try again

I set my craftsman ohm meter dial to 2 ohms. Without doing anything the digital display reads .008

When I cross the probes it reads .001

When I put the probes on the plug blades that go to the block heater it reads .033 and dips down to .027

What do you think?
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Something's not adding up.
What happens when you plug it in?
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The correct reading would be in to 30-40 ohm range, so start by setting you meter to an appropriate range. If the actual reading is close to zero, you probably have a short in the heater. Does it pop your circuit breaker when you plug it in?
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I'm stumped too. The only ohm setting on my meter is 2 ohms.
Nothing happens when I plug in the block heater. It doesn't get warm, no tiny sparks at the wall outlet when I push it in and pull the cord out. No circuit breakers pop. Wall outlet gets juice. I checked with my trouble light. I tried several of my good extension cords too. No difference.

However. I did notice the coolant level in the expansion tank is at the level of the low level float. It seems a bit low, but not that much.
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What happens when you plug it in?
That's kind of the acid test.

Resistance checks are not the greatest way to check a resistive heating element, about the only thing you can really determine from such a check is that if your meter indicates an open - then you have a problem.

A better test is a current draw test under load, most elements initially draw lots of current and as the heating element gets hot the resistance changes to a steady-state value.

For example glow plugs will test "OK" at approximately .7 ohm and they initially draw 20-25 amps... but only for a half second or so, then the current draw drops down to about 7-9 amps twenty seconds after they are activated.

Same deal with block heaters.
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I just checked the blades on the block heater cord with my cheapo analog meter. Ohm setting was at x10. When I touched the blades with the probe - no movement on the needle whatsoever.

I feel like a dumbass for posting this. Sorry.
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I just checked the blades on the block heater cord with my cheapo analog meter. Ohm setting was at x10. When I touched the blades with the probe - no movement on the needle whatsoever.

I feel like a dumbass for posting this. Sorry.

Another failure to understand a digital meter. I swear that the damn things put more folks in trouble than actually assisting them.

Digital meters should be avoided by most members of the forum. Only when the technician can see an obvious display error should they be purchased and utilized.

FWIW, I own two analog meters. One Radio Shack cheapie that does 90% of my work and a more costly and larger meter when I need very small resistances or when I need to read amperage up to 10A.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:41 AM
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Digital meters should be avoided by most members of the forum. Only when the technician can see an obvious display error should they be purchased and utilized
I have an old Simpson that I think was made in the early 60's (back when we actually made things in this country) that I use quite a bit it will do almost everything I need/want.

On the other hand a modern DMM (I have a Fluke 87, but any of them are fine) has some very useful features like duty cycle measurements, auto-ranging and min/max/average functions that will monitor a circuit over time.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:55 AM
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On the other hand a modern DMM (I have a Fluke 87, but any of them are fine) has some very useful features like duty cycle measurements, auto-ranging and min/max/average functions that will monitor a circuit over time.
Clearly, you would be in the latter category that I referenced, above. Many of those stated functions are not even comprehensible to most.

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