Vibration at highway speed, indie says driveshaft and U joint? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

cewyattjr · #16 04-02-2010, 07:14 PM

Thanks, Kerry.

leathermang · #17 04-02-2010, 09:46 PM

Those things may well need replacing..
but I would sure check the tires first...
Having someone drive your car and you drive beside them to see if anything is jumping around is a fast easy test...

cewyattjr · #18 04-02-2010, 10:01 PM

That's a great idea. I'll probably have to be the driver, my wife won't get behind the wheel on this one. The other thing that is worth noting is that the vibration isn't really constant, it kind of has a surge/beat to it. I suppose unbalanced tires could oscillate like that.

brownrice78 · #19 04-03-2010, 09:16 AM

This sounds exactly like the problem I am having with my car. It has the same things going on.

markho · #20 04-03-2010, 05:55 PM

me too. i feel it in the seat it seems and in the steering wheel too. but it only occurs at speeds over 50mph. i don't feel it at all under that speed. i was thinking the flex discs?

cewyattjr · #21 04-03-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by markho

me too. i feel it in the seat it seems and in the steering wheel too. but it only occurs at speeds over 50mph. i don't feel it at all under that speed. i was thinking the flex discs?

Hey Markho -- that is pretty much what I experience. It's kind of a pulsing shake/vibration. I did a superficial inspection of the flex disks but not sure I would recognize whether they need replacing. Anyway, I do have a new drive shaft that has flex disks as well, so hopefully it will do the trick. I will report back after next week's car shop visit. I figure it will involve a rental, since the '82 300D is my daily driver.

-Chuck

The Gears · #22 04-04-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cewyattjr

Taking to indie mechanic Monday now that I have the drive shaft and new axles, courtesy Flea Bay. What I notice is that the vibration at highway speed continues even if I drop the transmission in neutral. That makes me wonder if the problem involves the drive shaft at all. Is that a valid test?

How long since the tappets were set? I know it sounds crazy but a too tight tappet will cause the valve to float and not seal. That will create a vibration at the speeds you indicate. In my case,coasting in natural the vibration disappeared.

My indy said it was the flex plate, pulled the trani to check, the plate was OK. THEN he said to check the tappet clearance. Two valves were 000. Got them set just in time to avoid burning the seats.

cewyattjr · #23 04-07-2010, 06:40 AM

So the good news is that between parts and labor, I'm only looking at about $620. Got the parts from eBay and the labor was just over $300 to have the axles and drive shaft installed. Good, right?

The bad news is that I'm still experiencing vibration. Here's the "duh!" part of the story. One tire has fix-a-flat in it.

I needed those parts replaced anyway, yes I did.

dannym · #24 04-07-2010, 07:58 AM

You still haven't balanced your tires yet?
The first thing I thought of when I read the topic of this post was tires. I can't believe you haven't checked that since it was brought up a few times already.

Danny

cewyattjr · #25 04-07-2010, 08:55 AM

Actually I had that done first thing, but I'm back to it now. I was thinking that the fix-a-flat gunk may not allow proper balancing, since it is liquid and sloshes around. Kind of like the ol' water in the tire trick.

JB3 · #26 04-07-2010, 01:38 PM

That fix a flat stuff, while effective, really stinks to fully remove.

Even if they repaired the tire by removing it from the rim and properly patching it, if they did not soak all the liquid out of the tire, even a little bit can still cause an imbalance. I absolutely hated sopping the milk up, and washing the inside of the tire out and drying it so my abrasive disc for proper patch application would actually cut the rubber.

The fix a flat lubes tire cutting tools right up and you can cant get a good cut.

I would check the tire in question to see if they plugged it from the outside, or patched it from the inside.

If you wan't to verify without spending money, just move the tire around the car. if its one tire, the vibration will change from felt through the steering on the front to through the body on the rear, if felt at that point.

I hope you kept the original drive shaft, they don't really go bad unless they are broken or bent or something. they can be rebalanced for reasonable cost, and the U-joint can be replaced as well pretty easy when its out of the car. Might be useful for someone or yourself later on, it sounds like it was not the problem.

cewyattjr · #27 04-15-2010, 09:53 PM

Just a follow-up. Replaced tires on rear. I wouldn't have thought that an unbalanced rear tire would make so much vibration, but it sure did. My indie has the old drive shaft, as I don't have any garage. The neighbors don't much go for that stuff in the front yard

Still was good to get the new hardware (two new axles and new driveshaft) all is much smoother. BTW, got those Fleabay axles for about $70 each, we'll see how they wear.

Now still to forever troubleshoot that vacuum system.

Thanks again to all for your help and thoughts on this.

layback40 · #28 04-15-2010, 11:29 PM

When I was younger & didnt have much storage space, I used to put things in the ceiling cavity. Just had to make sure heavy stuff was placed over the walls.