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Old 08-06-2010, 12:06 AM
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That's the video Fulcrum! In fact this is a full length video. The one I saw is in two parts.

Either way watch it. This among other reasons is why I am really distrustful of police.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:00 AM
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I hate where this is going. Being a cop is a great job -- 40k, great benefits -- lots of people sign up for that reason. Lots more are ex-military (usually MPs) and it's what they're good at, so they do it. A huge slice of the cop cadre gets into it because they don't have the connections to get on with the local fire department, and the P.D. is the only way they can get into the First Responder business and be a "hero."

No, I'm not a cop. I'm an old newspaper hack who's written hundreds of stories about cops and courts and crime. I've known at least five dozen cops and of the lot, I can think of six who were in it for the wrong reasons. The thing is, though, those six cast a helluva long shadow over the others. One's in prison right now (kiddie porn), one was fired after being caught giving DUII tickets to stone-sober people, one (small-town police chief) lit his ex-wife's car on fire and blamed "gangs," and three are still on the streets.

Oh, wait, there's a seventh Bad Cop. Was at Ground Zero on Sept. 11, 2001, went on a speaking tour to tell high-school kids about his experience, took one of them to bed. I think he's still on the job.

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That's the video Fulcrum! In fact this is a full length video. The one I saw is in two parts.

Either way watch it. This among other reasons is why I am really distrustful of police.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:34 AM
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I hate where this is going. Being a cop is a great job -- 40k, great benefits -- lots of people sign up for that reason. Lots more are ex-military (usually MPs) and it's what they're good at, so they do it. A huge slice of the cop cadre gets into it because they don't have the connections to get on with the local fire department, and the P.D. is the only way they can get into the First Responder business and be a "hero."

No, I'm not a cop. I'm an old newspaper hack who's written hundreds of stories about cops and courts and crime. I've known at least five dozen cops and of the lot, I can think of six who were in it for the wrong reasons. The thing is, though, those six cast a helluva long shadow over the others. One's in prison right now (kiddie porn), one was fired after being caught giving DUII tickets to stone-sober people, one (small-town police chief) lit his ex-wife's car on fire and blamed "gangs," and three are still on the streets.

Oh, wait, there's a seventh Bad Cop. Was at Ground Zero on Sept. 11, 2001, went on a speaking tour to tell high-school kids about his experience, took one of them to bed. I think he's still on the job.
You're right about cops having great job perks. Which is the prime reason it attracts the wrong people with the wrong attitudes. Ex-military, people with Napoleon complexes, etc. As long as they have an undying need to appeal to a higher authority without common sense they're still a threat to our freedoms.

When a cop is on a "I want to be a hero" binge and you get sucked up into an investigation or pulled over for drunk driving for a "he changed lanes too early" excuse that's your own time wasted.

Worse being you having to "defend" yourself in court. Between court fees ,lawyers, and your own work time wasted for having that day in court to prove you're not guilty, you've wasted a ton of money that you will never get back. I don't know about you, but I would be financially devastated if I had to do that.

Among that, there have been more and more reports of ego riding cops lately coming out of my own town and around the country that it only pays not to trust them. If they're around walk away. No good can come from their presence or even talking to them.

Watch that video and exercise your rights. The last thing any of us want to do is spend thousands of dollars defending against a bogus accusation.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:37 PM
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You're right about cops having great job perks. Which is the prime reason it attracts the wrong people with the wrong attitudes. Ex-military, people with Napoleon complexes, etc. As long as they have an undying need to appeal to a higher authority without common sense they're still a threat to our freedoms.


Among that, there have been more and more reports of ego riding cops lately coming out of my own town and around the country that it only pays not to trust them. If they're around walk away. No good can come from their presence or even talking to them.

There are good cops but as mentioned there are plenty of bad ones out there.


okyoureabeast....you'll like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvVMTyaZpeU
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:51 AM
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I hate where this is going. Being a cop is a great job -- 40k, great benefits -- lots of people sign up for that reason. Lots more are ex-military (usually MPs) and it's what they're good at, so they do it. A huge slice of the cop cadre gets into it because they don't have the connections to get on with the local fire department, and the P.D. is the only way they can get into the First Responder business and be a "hero."
Well, it's a "great job" only if you want to be in the "First Responder business." My wife has better pay and benefits for answering a phone all day, and no one shoots at her. The same personality attributes that make someone want this type of job are part of the problem.

IMO, you need to remember who you are dealing with when you encounter these guys and operate at their level (they are probably not capable of operating at your level). You may not be dealing with the sharpest tool in the shed, these guys need to maintain their authority because that's their only advantage in most situations. They are trained to maintain the upper hand by "intimidation," so let them stay in character and play the game. If you push them out of their little comfort zone, they will probably push back and you will end up wasting your time. Somebody has to do the job, just be glad it isn't you and move on with your life.
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