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Old 09-26-2010, 06:05 PM
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A little help please, I've got everything apart, but I don't want to burn out the electrics by accident.

I've tried cranking by the ps pump, no love. The fan keeps me from getting at the alternator bolt, and the harmonic balancer is several inches deep to get at the main crank bolt. I've done valves many many times on BMW motorcycles and cars, but getting this crank to turn is really becoming troublesome.
nothing will burn out if you jump the wrong wire in the box. it will either turn the motor, or not. if it does not turn, use a different wire.
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Old 09-26-2010, 07:26 PM
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My junction box has only three junctions instead of the four in your photo. Can I bridge the outer connections with a ten gauge wire safely? Can this be done without a switch?
On mine if I take a good looke at the Terminal block I see that the 2 screws and wires closest to the Batter are bot (+). As you go forward there is a tiny plastic Wall.
On the other side of the Wall is one Screw with a White and Purple Wire.

You will be connecting any of the 2 towards the rear to the one screw in the front.

You can just use a Wire to bridge the 2 sides but evertime you make contact it may spark and that is normal. However, everytime it sparks it is going to slighlty burn the Screw Head/s.
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Old 09-26-2010, 07:30 PM
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It sounds like I should probably look into some sort of a switch then.

Since I was running out of working time I started working on taking off the fan since that seemed to be a common theme for easy crank access. Lost a 10mm wrench to a cut knuckle that bounced behind the harmonic balancer bit on the crank.

So now I'm working on taking off the alternator and the housing for the alternator so that I can hopefully reach behind and grab it. The round part of the wrench is somehow behind a screw that won't let me pull it out at the angle that I've got available, using 2 claw hands and 2 magnetic grabbers.

Sigh. Now I have to drive the woman to work tomorrow and lose out on a morning on getting the alternator off.
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Old 09-26-2010, 08:04 PM
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I'll put in a seventh or eighth vote that the remote starter switch is probably your best bet.

This makes me grateful for the fact that my 240 is stick shift. We just put it in 4th gear and turn the engine by pulling or pushing the car an inch at a time.

Good luck digging the wrench out. You MIGHT want to consider disconnecting the battery. There are some fairly heavy duty wires coming to and from the alternator. Although they SHOULD be insulated (one would hope) I'm sure there are plenty of places you could find while digging around for a metal wrench with metal tools to short out. You'd then have a 12v arc welder made with your wrench. Just a fairly simple precaution since you're working near the thing and know there's a metal tool floating near 12v alternator wiring and terminals, etc.
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Old 09-26-2010, 09:28 PM
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do not hook your switch to ground of any kind!~!!!

you want to connect to the screws in the junction block on the fender! if you connect to ground you will melt either your wires, or the switch you use, and you can explode your battery!!!!!

ONLY hook to the wires INSIDE the junction block!~!!!

they are all positive. and one is to the solenoid switch on the starter! very little power draw!
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Does the transmission need to be in neutral?
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Does the transmission need to be in neutral?
Automatic transmission: during a valve adjustment, you either want it in Park, or else in neutral with the parking brake on, so that if the car accidentally starts, it can't roll over you. If you are using a starter switch (wired correctly) this is extremely important. The odds of starting the engine by turning the crank by hand with a socket are slim to none.


Manual transmission: You want it in gear IF AND ONLY IF you are moving the crank by pushing the car while the gears are engaged. OTHERWISE the same rules as automatic transmission apply. Ensure that you are not going to accidentally run over yourself by placing the stick in neutral and applying the parking brake so that if the car accidentally starts, it won't move.
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The first thing I did before fishing for the lost tool was disconnect the battery.

I guess that I'll be hitting one of the auto places tomorrow to get a proper remote start switch. Then valve adjustments will be pretty quick and easy.

Tomorrow I'll also finish pulling off the alternator, hopefully that'll be enough for me to get the clearance that I need. I was going to rotate the crank just a tiny bit to see if the tool got a bit more unjammed, but I realized that the socket might get pinched, and the crank only goes clockwise, so I'd have to take the whole front pulley assembly off to get at it if it were to get more stuck.
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It depends a bit on the engine, it is either a deep socket 27 mm or a normal socket 27 mm with a very short extension, and a straight ratchet, not a curved one. This is when you keep the shroud and the fan in place.

If you remove the fan and if the fan has a fan clutch, keep the fan upright, otherwise the fan clutch will be damaged.
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You don't have to lock the IP before pulling it.

After removal the IP crankshaft has to be turned so that the marking is lined up with the fourth tooth left of the indent, around that spot the lock locks:



A bunch of oil will come out if you remove the bolt to insert the lock.

Last edited by Govert; 08-03-2012 at 04:04 AM. Reason: Correcting: second tooth must be fourth tooth.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:29 PM
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You don't have to lock the IP before pulling it.

After removal the IP crankshaft has to be turned so that the marking is lined up with the second tooth left of the indent, around that spot the lock locks:



A bunch of oil will come out if you remove the bolt to insert the lock.
Is this an IP off a 606. I recall the same set-up on my OM615 boat-diesel? Reading posts on procedure pertaining to the 606 it reads much more complicated.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:49 AM
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Is this an IP off a 606. I recall the same set-up on my OM615 boat-diesel? Reading posts on procedure pertaining to the 606 it reads much more complicated.
No, this is a MW IP from a 1983 300 turbodiesel.

There might be a locking screw for the OM615, but you can install the IP without one.
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