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View Poll Results: Any interest in purchasing an adjustable fuel pressure relief valve?
interested in purchasing adjustable fuel pressure relief valve 17 80.95%
interested in renting fuel pressure tester 3 14.29%
interested in purchasing adjustable fuel pressure relief valve and renting fuel pressure tester 6 28.57%
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:04 PM
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Are you interested in an adjustable IP fuel pressure relief valve?

I have been having lot's of fun in up-ing the fuel pressure by tweaking the IP fuel pressure relief valve in this thread and getting some positive results.

Fuel pressure.

I just made this adjustable pressure relief valve. On the right is the adjustment (a socket head cap screw), the blue nut is a nyloc lock nut, there's an o-ring to provide a positive seal. By turning the screw CW, fuel pressure is increased, CCW, pressure is decreased. I still have to test it to make sure it works well. I have confidence it will.

This poll is to see how many are interested in buying an adjustable fuel pressure relief valve and renting the test equipment to set the pressure. The test equipment will be a banjo bolt that has a quick disconnect fitting with a 6 ft nylon line to a pressure gauge so you can set the fuel pressure, like the setup in the thread I linked to above. There will be a core charge on your unmodified fuel pressure relief valve. I only have 3 of them currently and need your core so I can continue to make them. Price is TBD. I am just putting this poll out to see how much interest there is.

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Old 09-24-2010, 01:46 AM
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Clearly there is a need for a Fuel Pump Pressure test Kit.

However, I think the 2 way shipping charge needed to rent one could better be used to buy one or what you need to make one.

I am sure there are some who would like an adjustable Pressure Relief Valve.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:52 AM
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Clearly there is a need for a Fuel Pump Pressure test Kit.

However, I think the 2 way shipping charge needed to rent one could better be used to buy one or what you need to make one.

I am sure there are some who would like an adjustable Pressure Relief Valve.
D911, good point about offering a fuel pressure test kit instead of rental with the 2 way shipping.
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Maybe you cold factory preset them to the OEM pressure. People could then do their own extra adjustment. You should be able to give a starting point like say 3 turns out from the stop. There are probably some down sides to increasing the pressure by too much like diesel leakage into the oil.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:53 AM
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Maybe you cold factory preset them to the OEM pressure. People could then do their own extra adjustment. You should be able to give a starting point like say 3 turns out from the stop. There are probably some down sides to increasing the pressure by too much like diesel leakage into the oil.
I could most definitely preset the pressure to whatever is desired.
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I might be in but due to my current situation pricing would be the deciding factor.
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I know a free solution; stretch the spring to 27mm like the factory tells you to and be done with it for good.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:15 PM
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I know a free solution; stretch the spring to 27mm like the factory tells you to and be done with it for good.
Yes, except the spring will slowly give and the fuel pressure will slowly drop. Looks like there is not much interest. That is good actually because I don't have a lot of time for another project.
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I am interested in this - however I have to be honest and say that I haven't a clue about the fuel system on a OM617. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how the basic system works. I'm still quite new to this.

I guess this could be a reason why everyone has not been hammering down your door funola.

Can you direct me (and perhaps others) to some good diesel injection systems for newbies / dummies threads?
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Would this work on cars such as mine with the non adjustable spring?
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Old 09-30-2010, 10:03 AM
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Army, you're no newbie with all the work you've done. I don't have any links to good threads on the inline pump but a search should turn up a lot.

4the sporty, it is a direct replacement of the non adjustable. As a matter of fact, it is a modified non adjustable and I would need your's as core, if I was actually going to make them.on a continuing basis.
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I am interested in this - however I have to be honest and say that I haven't a clue about the fuel system on a OM617. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how the basic system works. I'm still quite new to this.

I guess this could be a reason why everyone has not been hammering down your door funola.

Can you direct me (and perhaps others) to some good diesel injection systems for newbies / dummies threads?
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Sending you a PM with links.


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Thank you very much. For those who may want to know more Wikipedia gives a great overview

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine#Early_fuel_injection_systems

The links that were kindly sent by whunter were:-

Fuel Delivery:
Diesel Fuel Delivery:

Diesel Injection:
Diesel Injection:

Run away diesel, why does it happen?
Run away diesel, why does it happen?

Engine blow-by test, Blow a bag of blow-by
Engine blow-by test, Blow a bag of blow-by

Blow-By curioisty questions
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/188320-blow-curioisty-questions-post1798266.html

Diesel TURBO issue Links thread
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diy-links-parts-category/229542-diesel-turbo-issue-links-thread-post1929856.html

Engine oil cooler and hose/line issue, link thread
Engine oil cooler and hose/line issue, link thread

Valve adjustment OM615, 616, 617 FYI.
Valve adjustment OM615, 616, 617 FYI.


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Don't understand why adjustability is required for anything other than spring fatigue over time.

Don't see the need to overpressure the fuel in the IP, either there is enough pressure to deliver the volume to the delivery valves, or not. So long as there is enough pressure, the valves are full and you get a full charge down the line.

Once the critical pressure is met, what does the extra pressure buy you? Nothing. It can't possibly increase the flow to the injectors. It can't possibly change your MPG or power.

To get the critical pressure, just replace the original spring, or stretch it a bit, as per FSM.

None of the poll options have what I'd vote for, so I didn't vote.
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Don't understand why adjustability is required for anything other than spring fatigue over time.

Don't see the need to overpressure the fuel in the IP, either there is enough pressure to deliver the volume to the delivery valves, or not. So long as there is enough pressure, the valves are full and you get a full charge down the line.

Once the critical pressure is met, what does the extra pressure buy you? Nothing. It can't possibly increase the flow to the injectors. It can't possibly change your MPG or power.

To get the critical pressure, just replace the original spring, or stretch it a bit, as per FSM.

None of the poll options have what I'd vote for, so I didn't vote.
I also do not understand how this would provide any benefit over a correctly adjusted IP.
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