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Old 11-15-2010, 11:46 AM
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I 2nd this on the space. The tunnel might be a little narrow, but it might also fit, you will have to see. heres a few pics showing two MB manual trannys next to a NV3500 GM manual tranny to show you the sheer size difference, I imagine the automatic might be even more girth than this manual.

The MB trannys are a 115/114 cast iron 4-speed, and an aluminum 123 5-speed in the middle. The NV3500 is out of an S-10 pickup, maybe late 90s
looking at the pictures the shifter might come out pretty close to where my manual 240D is now. Hmmm......
Minus the shifter linkage.
Remove the shifter and you have a square hole.
This would allow for the Chevy boot and shifter..........

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Old 11-15-2010, 12:18 PM
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looking at the pictures the shifter might come out pretty close to where my manual 240D is now. Hmmm......
Minus the shifter linkage.
Remove the shifter and you have a square hole.
This would allow for the Chevy boot and shifter..........

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I tentatively measured the MB shifters at like 8 inched to a foot further back than the NV3500 shifter, which would probably come up somewhere under the climate control, if you just bolted it to the engine, unless you managed to space it way back, or used another tranny, like a tremec which has multiple shifter location options.
Im sure you could make it work though! Would be a hell of a project to make this NV3500 work in an MB body though.

Ill have to scrounge around for the shifter linkage bars and shifter and take another pic to show how much further back they are
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:52 PM
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Some more pictures of the transmission adapter plate

Here are some more pictures of the transmission adapter plate - to spur you on!

It is a really nice casting - and it weighs in at 2.7 kg - just so you know.

It is held in place with 4 M10 (I think) bolts - strength rating 8.8 - coarse pitch thread
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You can buy an adapter for a 700r4, and they are plenty stout to handle the 180# of torque from the om617, but I'd like to point out the gear spread is identical to the mercedes transmission, first in the mercedes is about 4:1 with top gear being 1:1, with the 700r4 the range is roughly 3:1 in first with top gear at roughly 0.8:1, changing the final drive to 2.5:1 assuming you have a 3:1 final drive will have a nearly identical effect.
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Old 12-11-2010, 03:56 PM
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The 700R4 is cheaper to rebuild and upgrade than the Mercedes trans, but then it needs repair more often. I rebuilt one for a friend's K5 blazer, and at 80k it was trashed inside. First and second were ok, it slipped like crazy in direct and OD though, once I got it apart there was almost no clutch material left, all the steels were blued horribly. That was with a stock 350 in front of it.
On the other hand, can you find a 2.5 rear gear for this car?
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napabavarian,

I think the conclusion math is wrong: 4:1 x 3:1 == 12:1 overall first gear.
To adjust a 3:1 on the 700R4 for the same launch you'll need a 4:1
rear end.

Based on the final drive ratio, the 3.69 from a 240D should be pretty close.
<3 % 0.8 = 3.75>.

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... first in the mercedes is about 4:1 with top gear being 1:1, with the 700r4 the range is roughly 3:1 in first with top gear at roughly 0.8:1, changing the final drive to 2.5:1 assuming you have a 3:1 final drive will have a nearly identical effect.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:58 AM
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napabavarian,

I think the conclusion math is wrong: 4:1 x 3:1 == 12:1 overall first gear.
To adjust a 3:1 on the 700R4 for the same launch you'll need a 4:1
rear end.

Based on the final drive ratio, the 3.69 from a 240D should be pretty close.
<3 % 0.8 = 3.75>.
he wasn't saying that the 700R4 needs a 2.5:1 ratio to match what MB had... he was saying that instead of putting a 700R4 in, you could just install a 2.5 rear end, and have the same mileage as putting in the 700R4.

the difference of course is the locking torque converter. the MB trans does not have it, so putting in a 2.5 rear gear would introduce more slip in the TC!

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