Wal-Mart here carried Exide stuff, or did around a year ago. I don't know what else to say. I see that they must have sold some JC units according to the article, and now sell 100% JC units, but as I have already stated, that announcement predates my last trip to look at Wal-Mart batteries. At the time, everything on the shelf that I saw was an Exide.I paid very close attention to the batteries because I was there due to an Internet rumour that they were selling JC batteries, but they were not. Maybe they were in other parts of the country. I must admit that I did not consider the possibility until now that they were selling batteries from both JC and Exide, and which store got what brand may have been determined by locality.

Back then, I shopped them for a Kia battery, primarily just to get a price and warranty terms so that I could demonstrate to my wife that the lowest price is not always the best value. I already knew then that Wal-Mart was not a place I wanted to buy a battery. *Ahem!* Wal-Mart always has the lowest price, but rarely, in my experience, do they ever have the best value.

Anyway, Wal-Mart can suck an egg. Three times I have bought a battery from them that needed to be warrantied, and three times they screwed me on the warranty. I don't much like those odds, and I think that's all it's going to take for me to learn my lesson. The last time it was explained to me, getting a fresh warranty battery there means you are on your own with no warranty from then on out. It didn't read that way to me, but that's what the store manager told me. That manager and I could not agree on what the fine print said, because we couldn't seem to meet in the same reality. (He wouldn't leave La-La Land, and for that matter, would never even read the print, as he was convinced that he knew exactly what it said word for word, though he refused to recite it.) The Security guys that followed me out had no opinion on the matter.

If it says anything, the Wal-mart locations here do not even stock group 49 batteries, so they are not an option for the 300D. Even if they did - and maybe it's regional - they want a receipt to perform a battery warranty exchange. No receipt, no warranty. I had heard it differently, too, but when it comes down to actually needing a battery replaced, they want to see it. Have a receipt that has turned either completely white or completely black? Again, no warranty. Maybe some Wal-Marts still know what customer service is, but I'd put money on finding a stray unicorn in my yard tomorrow before I'd put money on finding a Wal-Mart where customers aren't lied to.

No, I'd rather pay Autozone the $134.99 for the fresh battery with an 8 year warranty that I can make use of with nothing more than my phone number. No receipts. No Paternity tests. No hassle. No having to stand in line at Wal-Mart behind some lady that smells like an ashtray with seven kids, each of which is from a different "baby daddy," while she tries to return something for cash that she shoplifted half an hour ago and still have enough time to make it home in time to record Jerry Springer. (True story, and no, I don't think the police cared how badly she needed to press record on the VCR!)

I was glad to pay Autozone a premium for their DuraLast Gold battery For my little Saturn several years ago, my wife's Kia last year, my Mercedes three years ago, and again just recently when my warranted battery in the Mercedes sprung a leak for no apparent reason. (Five minutes in and out for a warranty replacement!) I know that if I have a battery go bad, when I get a new one, my 8 year warranty resets, and always will no matter how many times it may be replaced under warranty by Autozone. I know that even though I will occasionally encounter idiots manning the counter at Autozone, I will still get what I need, and I know that my batteries will be fresh. You get what you pay for.

Wal-Mart is good for entertainment, though. Any of you guys checked out the peopleofwalmart site?

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- K.C.Adams

'77 300D Euro Delivery
OM617 turbo / 4-speed swap
404 Milanbraun Metallic / 134 Dattel MB-Tex

Current status:
* Undergoing body work

My '77 300D progress thread

I haven't bought a battery in years except the Advance Auto Parts in-house brand... I think they refer to our heavy duty ones as "Titanium" but I'm not sure. They've always had a group 49 in stock when I needed it, the posts are on the correct side (In contrast to the Exide that I've got in my 240D; came with the car; the posts are situated back almost against the firewall (not touching, or I'd have a mobile arc welder) instead of out in the open like they should be), they have a few years replacement and 7 years prorated, and I've had excellent service life from them.

Used to be a diehard DieHard fan and then they got fairly mediocre. Used to use Deka because that's what the local little man parts store sells (I try to do business with him just to help him out anytime I can afford the wait while he orders the part and gets it "tomorrow") as did most of my family for years and years and years --- but lately they've gotten mediocre as well. I think you just can't get a battery like you used to no matter what you buy, but my latest loyalty is to those Advance ones until I get a reason to distrust them as well.

I've read all the advertising claims about Optimas and a few people on here swear by them I think, but... I'm old-fashioned and I'm not paying that for a battery in any case.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

I believe I currently have a Advance Auto Parts group 49 in at least one of my cars, primarily because that's the closest auto parts store. They all seem to last a fee years if you don't let them go completely dead.

around here, at most the 49's are two months out... most are current month stickers. I guess we have more MB buyers than your part of the country...
or maybe it's just me buying them...

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

I only bought @ Wally-Mart because they were the only folks in town who had what I needed , I was well pleased with the price .

Agreed , Wally-Mart is bad for your (any) community but , when it comes to branded merchandise , they're always the best value . I often buy my work clothes (Dickies) there as NO ONE else comes close on the price .

It's sad they hired one of thier typical customers to be the manager , refusing to read the warrany and then calling security , means he was not only stupid but fearful as well and prolly had a short d*ck to boot .

" The People Of Wallmart " is a hilarious site and well recommended when you're feeling low , looking at those sub humans will cheer you up until you remember : they breed , copiously .

I don't know about Auto Zone's warranty but Kragen/Shuck/s OReilly has ZERO warranty ~ you go back and say ' I need warrany service please ' , they look you in the eye and reply " Oh , Rielly ? that's too bad ' .

Auto Parts ain't what it used to be nor is it what it ever should be , I've been in The Auto Trade (by choice) my whole life and I'm often ashamed by what goes on but NEVER in my shop nor on my watch .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Farm & fleet sells very good batterys, might be made by Johnson Controls, I don't remember. Never had to use the warrenty yet. Iv'e got a 8 or 9 year old 6volt in something that still works but will be replaced next time I'm at the store. Good prices too.

Location undoubtedly is a factor. I have three WalMart batteries in service at the moment. One is dated 2004, one 2006 and one 2009. All are clearly marked "Distributed by Johnson Controls Battery Group."

When I have had a warranty issue on a WalMart battery, I was issued a cash refund. I have found that the process is less problematic if I take the problem battery to the customer service counter during the hours that the auto department is not open. Again, policies may vary by location, as do the laws pertaining to warranties.

That said, I do agree that Autozone is the hands down winner when it comes to honoring their warranties without complaint. Even there, however, I was once told that there would be no warranty on a replacement part, which certainly seemed contrary to the stated policy. In any case, my warranty information for the subject part was manually removed from their computer when the replacement part was provided.

Last weekend I stopped in a Virginia Beach Sam's Club. FWIW, they had some group-49 Energizers for $88, made by Johnson Controls, with current (11/10) date stickers on the couple I looked at.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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Todays batteries seem to have strange habits. Kept in daily service they will last fairly well . Only interm usage seems to shorten their lifespan or has for me to a great degree.

They also seem to intensly like any form of deep discharge. It may still work well after but my feeling is the practical lifespan has been seriously comprimised.

The technology of the lead acid battery is far from new. Something in my opinion has been changed as many of todays problems did not seem as common when I was younger. It may have just been luck of the draw though.

About the only belief I have left. If a battery is going into storage for several months or longer. Charge the battery or top it off. Drain the acid and put it into a glass bottle. When you re introduce the acid all will be well.

Wear at least a full face shield, rubber gloves and old clothes when draining the batery upside down.

This is how the US navy can get fifteen to twenty years out of there batteries. Trickle charging and many types of storage varients have been pretty well total failures with the newer type batteries.

My first 123 I bought needed a battery, that or a fuel pump (long story). When I installed it it shorted out a cell and needed to go to the store and replace it. It took about 1/2 hour to figure out it was the battery. It started to turn over then stopped. Thought it was a wiring problem. I'm under the impression that lead acid batteries are pretty much the same. (Made by several manufactures using the same technology) Yes they do have different qualities. Now unless you switch to or start looking at AGM or newer technology batteries then factors change.
Get the best battery you can afford. Group 49

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92 300D 2.5L OM602 OBK #59

I have my garage rigged up with a 110watt solar array on the roof. it maintains all stored batteries to a full 13.8v. I keep a set of deep cycle in there, and have it tied to a 5kw inverter... don't ask... anyway, the solar panel is awesome for maintaining and reconditioning older batteries, and it's FREE to run. my shop has power all the time, and I have reserve power to run the house when issues arise.
drunk drivers take out power poles frequently, and the occasional ice storm has left me without power for weeks before. I LIKE having power available to me.
it's also nice opening the power bill and only seeing $30 or so on there...
anyway, since I've kept the charge controller clipped to the stored batteries, I've not had a battery go bad.

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Well, last week I had to get a group-49 battery for a friend. Despite the recent, extended deep-freeze, her nearewst WalMart had three Johnson Controls Everstart Maxx, date code 11/10, for $77 + tax.
As most places want a reciept for waranty these days, hopefully she'll hang onto her's. If there's a problem, I guess we'll find out what happens at WalMart.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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My dad told me years ago, back in the days of black rubber cases & tar tops on batteries, always go for the heaviest battery in a given case size. It has more lead & thats what counts. These super efficient little batteries with high CCA soon loose their gloss. The heavy solid ones go the distance!!

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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group

I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....

1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

Well, they were definitely fresh, eh?

Do you happen to know what the CCA rating?

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- K.C.Adams

'77 300D Euro Delivery
OM617 turbo / 4-speed swap
404 Milanbraun Metallic / 134 Dattel MB-Tex

Current status:
* Undergoing body work

My '77 300D progress thread

I think those were 940 CCA. This one went in a 2003 V6 CLK gasser convertible, where the battery was in the trunk. Amazing was all the electronics I had to reset - in addition to the clock, there's the ESP-ABS, Express Window System, Power Seat Memory. Fortunately, all the procedures were in the owner's manual.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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