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Old 11-29-2010, 02:19 PM
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But they also said I needed a new alternator.
If they checked the alternator while afterglow was running, it could look that way. Your report of approx 14 volts at idle suggests otherwise.
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Old 11-30-2010, 09:37 AM
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If they checked the alternator while afterglow was running, it could look that way. Your report of approx 14 volts at idle suggests otherwise.

Yeah, if I can get 14 at idle, I don't need a new alternator. It was typical autozoo tech who was just telling me what the computer said.


The car starts every morning if I start and run it every day. If I leave it for two days (which I am doing now) It usually won't start. I have dropped the "car off" amp draw down to .13 amps. I have now left it for two days and I'm going to see what my battery volts are after two days and then see if it cranks. If I try to start it tomorrow morning and it doesn't start...its straight to autozoo for a new battery (hopefully a nice warranty covered battery).
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:02 PM
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Yeah, if I can get 14 at idle, I don't need a new alternator. It was typical autozoo tech who was just telling me what the computer said.


The car starts every morning if I start and run it every day. If I leave it for two days (which I am doing now) It usually won't start. I have dropped the "car off" amp draw down to .13 amps. I have now left it for two days and I'm going to see what my battery volts are after two days and then see if it cranks. If I try to start it tomorrow morning and it doesn't start...its straight to autozoo for a new battery (hopefully a nice warranty covered battery).
0.13 amp draw with the key off is too much and part of the problem. Start pulling fuses and see which circuit it is.
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:36 PM
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0.13 amp draw with the key off is too much and part of the problem. Start pulling fuses and see which circuit it is.

HA! it was a .58 originally. At this point it has to be my Sony Xplod Bluetooth radio. I've been considering installing that into my 95. Looks like thats what I'll be doing.

I checked the voltage on the battery. 12.00 even...wait...12.05 after sitting for a day and a half. I don't like that either. I'll do another test with the old sony tape deck installed after I check it's off amp draw.


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On your model, the duration of the glow light (and the glow cycle on some timer versions) is a function of ambient air temperature at the timer. There is no engine temp input to the timer.



No. The light is controlled by a solid-state device that is part of the timer assembly. The relay itself powers only the glow plugs, when energized by the solid-state device. The light does not provide a direct indication of relay operation.
So.....if I lose two glow plugs will my indicator light still light up?
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:46 AM
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So.....if I lose two glow plugs will my indicator light still light up?
it depends on which plugs fail... but the answer is maybe.

I'd love to be one of the TWUTGPR members... but it's best to just notice it's on or not in the morning, and listen for the relay to click when it's cold. if it does not come on, check your glow plugs.

Thayer...
have you tried starting it while measuring the voltage, and then unplugging the glow plug harness from the relay and checking if the voltage INSTANTLY jumps to 14?
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:24 AM
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it depends on which plugs fail... but the answer is maybe.

Why would it matter which two plugs failed?
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:01 AM
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Why would it matter which two plugs failed?
Because the glow plug light being on is controlled in part by a circuit that compares the current draw on a few of the glow plug pins in the relay.
Certain combinations can still light the lamp, while others won't.

If I remember what I read a while back, cylinder 1 is compared to the rest, but I don't know the actual ins and outs beyond that.
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