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Old 04-16-2011, 08:25 PM
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The way it was explained to me was that dual igntions provided a back up if there was a failure and the engine quit. If an an injection pump or injector failed you don't have a back up.
Electronically fuel-injected gasoline engines solve this by using two ECUs. If one misbehaves the pilot can switch to the other. An ECU check is part of the runup checklist, just like a magneto check. You could probably achieve the same thing with a diesel; it's just a matter of money and engineering time.

Also, there are planes flying around without redundant ignitions. I think it depends on what kind of certification the aircraft needs.

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The way it was explained to me was that dual igntions provided a back up if there was a failure and the engine quit. If an an injection pump or injector failed you don't have a back up.
For the most part, gasoline aircraft engines do not have redundant fuel systems. No backup carburetors or fuel injection systems. The only system that is completely redundant (usually, but not always) is the ignition system, which is not applicable to a diesel engine.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:30 PM
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In this country, no one has a pilots license. The FAA doesn't issue licenses, they issue certificates.
I'll keep that in mind next time the FAA asks me for mine!
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Old 04-17-2011, 12:08 AM
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For the most part, gasoline aircraft engines do not have redundant fuel systems. No backup carburetors or fuel injection systems. The only system that is completely redundant (usually, but not always) is the ignition system, which is not applicable to a diesel engine.
You do have 2 fuel pumps in some aircraft. One mechanical and one electrical. That would be the only example of a redundant fuel system.
Dual magnetos do more than provide redundant ignition systems. The plugs are spaced as to provide complete combustion of the fuel charge. If you run the engine on just one mag the engine will detonate as the flame front speed is not sufficient to complete the fuel burning process before the cylinder has created enough pressure to detonate the rest of the fuel.
Bad for the engine but much better for the pilot than having no spark at all!

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