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What Factors Affect Relationship Between Accelerator Depression and Acceleration?
Two essentially identical cars: 91 300D and 92 300D. Downside is that I notice small differences. The 92 seems to have a quicker response to the depression of the accelerator. With the 91, it seems that I have to depress the accelerator further for the boost to kick in (but not so far that the kickdown solenoid is activated....KS on both cars work fine). But, as long as the accelerator is sufficiently depressed, the acceleration is just fine. It just somehow FEELS less responsive because I have to push more.
So I'm curious: what governs the relationship between how far the pedal is pushed and quickly the car moves? Is there something that can be adjusted, or do I just chalk this up to idiosyncratic differences between the cars? If it matters....the 91 has three pressure converters, the 92 has two (the updated design); I have replaced the pressure converters on the 92. Thanks.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 154k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 172k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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There are all sorts of things that can be different but I want to point out one that plagued me for weeks before I figured it out. I had a small crack in the stainless expansion collar on the two piece manifold. It was bleeding energy before the turbo making the car sluggish
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Car to car variance is what gives them personalities. Drive the "slow" car when you're feeling relaxed. And drive the "fast" car when you want to get there in a hurry. You're lucky to have different vehicles for your various needs, in same superb Mercedes body type.
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Cheers! Scott McPhee 1987 300D |
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 154k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 172k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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second, the IP itself has an aneroid for controlling the amount of fuel before boost kicks in, if it's out of adjustment, it'll affect the acceleration of the car.
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Does the 124 have the engine bay "firewall thingy" like the 123? That might be a factor.
- Peter.
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2021 Chevrolet Spark Formerly... 2000 GMC Sonoma 1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021 2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels 1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles. 1984 123 200 1979 116 280S 1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille 1971 108 280S |
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(and fuel pedal linkage passes through each)
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Cheers! Scott McPhee 1987 300D |
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FWIW I oberved the movement of the throttle cable while depressing the accelerator on both cars; seems to be exactly the same.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 154k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 172k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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Another forum member via email suggested an ALDA adjustment....although I must confess I'm a bit frightened by the prospect of tinkering with the ALDA.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 154k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 172k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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afraid of what?
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1996 s10 zr2 with a 6.5 turbo diesel 1996 c2500 suburban with a 6.5 turbo diesel 1981 300sd with a turbo 617 Monte carlo figure 8 car |
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Breaking the ALDA. Do a search for "ALDA" and you'll find some sad stories....
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 154k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 172k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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ir is painfully easy, if you break it your really doing some thing wrong
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1996 s10 zr2 with a 6.5 turbo diesel 1996 c2500 suburban with a 6.5 turbo diesel 1981 300sd with a turbo 617 Monte carlo figure 8 car |
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if the wastegate on the turbo isnt dailed in it'll take longer to spool the turbo(more throttle)
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1993 e300 1995 e320 1994 e320 2006 s500 4matic 2004 Jeep wj overland 2001 Ducati 748 2004 Honda shadow aero |
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ALDA. Every 60x enigine I've had needed an ALDA adjust, it's in the FSM for weak acceleration below 2500rpm as a fix, is fairly simple and yields excellent results.
Problem is, once you adjust the ALDA in the weaker car, you'll need to do it on the other car.
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Gone to the dark side - Jeff |
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Just looking at the 'brass?' linkage on my '83 300SD, did something primal to me.
What a magnificent set of mechanical artistry to admire. |
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