That sounds like a good idea...


Ok... so that this is not so much an inside joke....

Our Turbo 617 engines have had this feature for about 50 years.....

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

I still haven't figured out why Ford is using Indy racing spec engines in a mundane application like a pickup where all you need is a cast iron straight six with pushrods- just like Ford used to use and Dodge has been using since 1989. Must be part of the HP race so you can get to the store ten seconds sooner or not be late picking the kids up from school.

More power = bigger p3nis = more sales

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-Typos courtesy of my mobile phone.

As cars/trucks get more and more reliable (and they are, with some notable exceptions), it gets tougher and tougher for the manufacturers to convince folks to ditch their perfectly good 5-year old car or truck and spend $30K-$50K or more on a new one. Using a racing spec engine in a common pickup truck is a good example of how desperate they have become.

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"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

Exactly.

My 2000 Powerstroke has piston cooling jets...

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-Evan


Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250

Diesel engines have had them for years. I think what leathermang is referring to is their recent use in gas engines, namely the Eco Boost and the new 5-litre Mustang engine that is also used in the F150 with some modifications. Meanwhile, I'll stick with my old Mercedes and my 8 year old Ram with the simple inline six cylinder engine. If I want to get to the store ten seconds sooner, I'll leave ten seconds earlier.

My brain just made the logical leap that he was talking about the diesel...

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-Evan


Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250

If you are referring to the Ecoboost 3.5L V6, we are talking about apples and oranges. The Ecoboost 3.5L and 617 are both turbo motors, but the former is twin turbo, direct injected gas motor and the later is a single turbo, indirect injected diesel motor. Not typical for a gas motor.

The use of the piston cooling jets aides in cooling the pistons as well as getting the engine up to operating temperature faster through the oil being sprayed on a a hot piston.



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1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System

Lots of cars have oil cooling on the piston bottoms. All turodiesel VWs do for example, as do most if not all of the gas motors.

-J

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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.

My '85 745i turbo has oil cooled pistons. Came standard in the 1984+ MY BMW M106 turbo motors.

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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.

'85 300SD 245k
'87 300SDL 251k
'90 300SEL 326k

Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford.

Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]

Maybe I should of said typical American turbo gassers.


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1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System

Cause a 2011 Ecoboost powered 1/2 ton super cab loaded with 4wd will do 20mpg or better on the highway.

My dads old 1994 F150 XLT with the straight 6 and 2wd would do about 5mpg less on the best day.

The modern truck has twice the power and towing capacity, and is far more refined, gets better mileage, significantly lower emissions, and has 4wd.

Trying hard to see the downside.

Come into the 21st century its nice and warm.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

You have that a little wrong!!

Wanting more power = make up for little P3nis = more sales

I do believe its called "small mans syndrome"

or the bigger the car, the smaller the endowment !!
or Big man ~ little P3nis . Little man ~ all P3nis !!


The first sign of this is when you see some one bragging about horse power etc !!

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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group

I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....

1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

I'm already in the 21st century. My 2003 Dodge with some mods will do 24 MPG on the highway all day long. Its simple Cummins engine will still be going strong long after the EB has blown out several sets of spark plugs and cracked numerous exhaust manifolds. I saw the torture test on several of the automotive channels- it's impressive to say the least. Let's see how it does in the real world. Remember the 6-litre hype? It was supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. How did that one work out? Some of these features are nice, for sure, but I wouldn't want to own something like this long-term. If you are into leasing vehicles, it may be the ticket- for me- no thanks.

I'll stick with my Dodge with its 800 mile cruising range and its 18,000 mile oil change interval. Let's see the EB do that.

The oil in the photo has gone 18,000 miles (400 hours).

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