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removed alda no start
1982 300TDT I first tried to adjust alda then removed it now the car wont start . it started perfect befor removal it will start and run good with a shot of wd-40 wont start normal though.
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Did you check out the two possibilities suggested in the other thread on the topic, glow plugs and vacuum line to the shut off. If so, what were the results of the investigation?
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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yes i checked all that it runs fine when started
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How did you test the glow plugs?
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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with a meter it is 80 degres really should not need plugs when it it does start it smokes alot at first almost like it is geting too much fuel but i didnt thank diesels can get too much fuel
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Did you check voltage or resistance? Hard start, smoking upon start can be a symptom of malfunctioning glow plugs, especially if it starts with wd-40. Do you know the compression numbers on the engine?
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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checked both volts a ohms it started fine before i screwed with the alda so it must have sompthing to do with fuel delivery injection pump probably should have just left it alone
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Could be coincidental, but unlikely. Lots of people here have messed with their ALDA's and a no-start condition as a result is very rare. I can't remember another instance. Can anyone else? What ohm readings did you get?
Can you detail the exact things you did in the process of working on the alda so there's more data for people to bounce around in their minds?
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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about .6 ohms all five plugs . first screwed out alda about half a turn let the engine cool then no start so removed alda still no start then put alda back on now have to start it with wd -40 but when it does start it runs fine and starts good when engine is HOT
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Does it make any difference if you hold the accelerator pedal down when attempting to start it cold? How many miles on the engine? Do you know the compression numbers? Generally no start cold but start hot is an indication of non-functioning glow plugs or poor compression. Can't think of anything with the ALDA which would cause it.
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no compresion test done , no difference when pressing pedel down , the car has about 180,000 mile
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Yeah, I broke my ALDA and it made my car the SLOWEST CAR IN THE WORLD, but it idled just fine...look for something you disturbed inadvertently.
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There are two threads on the same topic. Maybe a mod can merge the two so diagnosis can follow a more unified path.
What might have been disturbed that would cause no start cold and good start hot? Glowplugs or a fuel leak are the only two things that seem possible to me. Don't know why either would have been disturbed by removing the ALDA. I'm still in favor of a compression check before progressing. It will provide information which will be useful in the future even if low compression is not the problem.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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