After just re reading this thread. I was thinking it would be interesting to see if an an update might be available. So I will pm him.

There is bad and good coincidence in life as well. There is no way a block or so on an engine not even up to operating temperatures is going to destroy the piston rings. I feel as one previous poster stated something important is missing here..

This was part of my point. If the Oil pressure gauge was between the Oil Outlet (dirty Oil coming out of the Engine and going towards the Oil Filter) and the Oil Filters a plugged or restricted Oil Filters would show a high Oil Pressure and you would not no you are having an Oil starvation issue.

If the Oil Pressure Gauge was located between the Oil Filters and the Oil inlet (Filtered Oil going back to the Engine) on the Block a plugged or restricted Oil Filter would show lower Oil Pressure assuming the Gauge had at least 100 psi range.

Remember the original set of racing Filters He use apparently worked OK.

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

You told them to install PH8A and they installed something else, without your approval? That's a problem. Now you've got to make it their problem.

OTOH You've got a non-stock vehicle. You can't expect them to be able to figure out what you've got going on there. You can't depend upon this to be reliably communicated between the person at the counter and the one that does the work. You need big obvious stickers that say.

USE ONLY THESE FILTERS. followed by list of proper filters, in several popular brands Wix 5xxxx, Fram HP1, Fram PH8A, Fleetgard, etc.
USE THIS MUCH OIL. followed by the proper amount of oil, and or your favorite brand of oil.
USE ONLY THIS TYPE OF OIL followed by the API oil spec. and weight.

Got an owner's manual in the glove box? Paste the same thing over the pages where a competent mechanic would look on for oil ratings and capacities. Better yet. Get a 123 owners manual and cut and paste the two to make one that matches the vehicle. A print shop can bind it up for you.

I'm not trying to put the blame on you, but it sounds like there are a few things that you could do to make this much less likely to happen again, or at least make it so only a real bona-fide idiot could install the wrong stuff. Carry extra filters for your vehicle with you. Keep a case of filters in your garage. Shop doesn't have your filters? "That's okay. There's a pair of filters with the spare tire." Find a shop you like and stick with them.

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'99 E300 Turbodiesel, '82 300TD, 1996 12V Cummins Turbo, '94 Neoplan - Detroit 6V92TA

I found a critical flaw once when engine swapping a 617 from a donor sedan to a coupe,the oil sender line was cut to bring out the donor motor.Once the motor was ready to fire off in the coupe it took under 1 minute to push 4 qrts of fresh oil all over the engine and onto the garage floor..I great day of kitty litter fun was had by all.

The folks who run old style 60x engine vacuum pumps on borrowed time should start farming out oil changes

Sixto
87 300D

Buddy's Shop finally has time for me (they have been swamped).

They torn into the motor this week...kinda explains blow-by and compression issues:










Replacement motor came from a strong running 83 w/200K.





Soooo looking forward to having my truck running again.

Will be keeping the original filter w/this engine, no more adapters or spin-on filters.

Another nice bonce about the 83, no more 85 test-pipe

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toyota fj40 landcruiser with a mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel

Holy cow! Did you drive to shop or get towed? What happened with the claim? Who has been determined to be at fault?

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1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

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Jooseeppiiiiiii, buddy, when you have things that get banged up like that engine, internal parts smashed to smittereens, you can't blame that on the oil change guy. It just won't stick. There is nothing to hang it on. Foreign object/material stuck in piston - yes it is foreign all right, foreign as a valve or a piece of the turbo. Must have been an awful piece of junk stuck into a piece of junk (the whole vehicle). You have to be more then hearing impaired to know that you have more then, " it operated so sluggish, so down on power". Maybe it took that big shjt the second time he revved it up to check the oil level, lol. I really think it is funny!

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1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

looks like you had either a foreign object ingested into the intake somehow or dropped a valve.

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79 240D my current toy
42 years a Diesel addict

240D sold
250SE sold
220D sold
280C sold
280S sold
300D (2) sold
300CD sold
300DT sold
300SD sold
380SL sold

Well there's your problem...

Towed her home, then towed buddies shop when it sat.

Hole in piston could only be associated w/dropped valve or foreign object?

Hope to get more details next time I'm at the shop...

Currently no claim...expensive lesson.

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toyota fj40 landcruiser with a mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel

Are you keeping a detailed chain of evidence to formulate a claim?

What part of this is a expensive lesson, the conversion of the truck or taking it to a quick oil change place?

check for a valve the has broken prior to the damage.
due to the recent servicing of the engine i am leaning towards "ingestion of a foreign object"

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79 240D my current toy
42 years a Diesel addict

240D sold
250SE sold
220D sold
280C sold
280S sold
300D (2) sold
300CD sold
300DT sold
300SD sold
380SL sold

Any more news on the motor and law suit?

Are you keeping a detailed chain of evidence to formulate a claim?

What part of this is a expensive lesson, the conversion of the truck or taking it to a quick oil change place?

rod bearing in the pic has no scoring so it is not an oil related failure.

when they check the air filter something could have been ingested into the air intake or just vandalism. hard to prove sometimes.
you want to find something related to the air filter or its hardware to prove negligence on their part.
if you find something other than air filter hardware then it could be vandalism.

one time I was called to do forensics on an MB straight 6 gas engine.
It had a foreign object ingested into one cylinder only, broke the piston, damaged combustion chamber however no valve seat broke off in that cylinder.
shop claimed the piece related to the intake flap had its nut come loose and into the air inlet stream.
the nut was all banged up as if it was smashed by the piston.
I told them something was ingested but it was not that nut because it was to big to get past the valve openings.
I was embarrassed for them because of their red faces.




you can look through the debris for something unusual and not part of the internal engine to prove vandalism.

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79 240D my current toy
42 years a Diesel addict

240D sold
250SE sold
220D sold
280C sold
280S sold
300D (2) sold
300CD sold
300DT sold
300SD sold
380SL sold