Do you guys ever fudge the fsm prescription for timing?

Why do I ask? With setting crank at 24 degree btdc, mounting the ip at the center of its range of adjustment, I need to rotate the ip toward engine (advance) all the way to get to about 2 or 3 drops per second but not continuous fuel flow. So that is very close to good.

Would you set ip recess (on splines of ip input shaft) alignment one tooth right of mark on oil overflow endcap thus adding a bit of advance of begin delivery....

Those fine splines are 6 degrees each by my count, there are 60 of them total.

Thanks in advance.

After having to reinstal an IP a couple of times after I could not get the timing right after the initial installation, I think what you want to do is a wise course of action.

Of course with the OM617 turbo you can use the locking screw. Install the IP with the locking screw, pull on the timing chain a bit, so that all slack is eliminated, then remove the locking screw.

Thx Gov. it seems to have worked ok for the moment. When i start it and run around a bit Ill know more.

The difference between continuous fuel flow and drip drip is tiny indeed. Its almost impossible to get it down to one drip per second, that is one very precise spot indeed.

Thanks

for the moment seems to have worked .... and I have adjustment either direction in case....

Also you speak as though some kind of god. Not good. If you have an opinion say why you think your opinion makes sense. Frankly I do not think it does but if you could defend it with logic at least that would make it look like you are thinking.

I've nearly given up on these boards because of endless bs like this. There are a few people whose posts I seek out due to great information and great writing ability.

????? You took advice which worked and included information you asked for because you didn't know it or have an easier source and now are complaining????

Or perhaps you were responding to a post that was deleted. Mama always said to say "Thank you" when someone went out of their way to help. Strange people plying these boards.

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I re-read the Post you feel is ofensive.
I also don't see how you could have any problem with what was said.

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he (junkman) said "do this" with out any logic.

I did not feel it was offensive just weak and devoid of logic.

My observation there are lots of folks offering guesses and argueing with one another with little or no solid backup .... and wording guesses as authoritative. Just my observation, maybe not even true.

I must admit a long time ago I stopped reading posts carefully, I only read those backed folks with real logic and experience.

Govert, he's one of the solid ones.... simple, logical, right to the point.

If you are going to offer authoritative infor, back it up instead of acting like mister big shot without foundation.

911 ,,,, I feel yours are the strongest (in terms of technical) of all the folks who seem to be on these boards all the time, though I only hang put here when when I have a specific technical problem. YOu come across with solid experience, training, information and you are literate ..... you walk stepwise through complex infor ( generally) to include all those who may not be broadly experienced. Very helpful. You be boss.

Junkman, dude, if you want to be a big shot mb guy, back it up with logic.
So, what is your logic? I can be verrry humble too.

Rocket, I was responding to your tone. You asked for information, received some, apparently implemented and it worked. You then come back and criticize the poster for speaking "as though some kind of god."

A more appropriate reponse would have been "Thank you. That worked. Could you explain your thought process?"

As is, you are the one who comes off as arrogant. To each his own.

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I would think the "logic" is obvious. If you cannot get the IP to drip, then you have to remove the IP and reinstall. That is in the FSM. It happened to me a couple of times that I had to reinstall after I installed the pump with the markings lined up. The problem is that the FSM is not entirely clear how to line them up. The indent on the splined shaft is rather large, the mark on the pump housing is a stripe. Should you line up the stripe with the middle of the indent or one of the sides of the indent? I used the middle, but that meant I had to reinstall. So it is better to line up the marking on the pump with the spline on the left of the indent.

I have never been called "god" or "mr. big shot" before, it is rather amusing.

Govert ... those comments were directed at junkman, not you. He offered an idea I found rather weak and with no logic for it offered at all. Junkman deleted that post, so now because of that deletion the thread has become confusing.

I found your comments to be "right on the money."

Thanks for your reply. You were right, the solution seems to have worked just fine.

I do find many folks on MB boards offer guesses for solutions to technical problems trying to sound knowledgeable and they do so with an air of authority which makes the setting, on the whole, uninteresting. One must select who one interacts with.

As a medical professional I can tell you certain types of mental illness are characterized by that type of confounding communication and behavior. The one person with a knowlegable, good natured and succinct contribution to the ip problem, Govert, was mislead by what the thread became due to junkmans messy style of contributing.

Thi

All Humans I have met have some mental issues; I am not exempt from that.
This is a forum and right or wrong anyone can speak/write here. No one has to listen or follow any of the advice given.
Saying you don't believe someone or that you don't follow their logic is OK. But I think saying someone is trying to be God Like; and I don't see that when I read that post and inferring Mental illness on folks is just plain rude.
I am not sure why other Members or the Moderator have not commented on this.
Remember most forum Members are hobbyist; not professional Mechanics.
They write in their Posts what worked or did not work for them.

You also have to take into account that it is not easy write easily understood instructions. You have only to look at the Haynes Manual to see how a Writer can give confused instructions.

I urge you to drop any sort of vilification of anyone.
In a Month or so come back and re-read the comment you felt was offensive and see if you still think it was offensive.

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As an engineering professional, I can tell you certain types of mechanics are characterized by the inability to accept the recommendations given and utilize them to their maximum degree.

The one person with the perfect solution to your exact problem is a needle in a haystack.

If you cannot parse the recommendations given and determine if they will work for you, it would be preferable for you to depart the board and give your vehicle to a mechanic. In this scenario, you get only a single recommendation...........that of the mechanic..........and you have no issues with "messy styles of contributing".

We'll all be happier for it.

This is off subject but I don't have anyplace else wher I can tell this:

By a quark of fate I still have my Respiratory Car Liscence that you need to be a Respiraoty Therapist here in CA and I am a Registered Respiratory Thearpaist with the National Board For Respiratory Care.

Even though I did not far well in that field I guess I could say I was a Medical professional if only for a year or so.
I still maintain my Liscence that requires me to have X amount of continueing education units every 2 years (you take some tests after wards). That is about $500 every 2 years for the Lic and the Units.

I earnd my living as a Mechanic until my Bod got in too bad of condition for Me to do that with any degree of comfort.

So I sort of bridge the gap between both worlds.

Working in the Medical Field is stressful and it is easy to become physically and mentally worn out fast and you bring that Home with you.
One of the reasons I opted out of that Field.

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Rocket, I didn't delete any post. I only responded to your tone. Take the information on the forum for what it's worth...or don't. Your choice.

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come on guys this a diesel discussion not a drama show. Peace, Love, and Happiness

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