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Old 01-20-2013, 02:40 AM
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Is it a good deal?

I've been looking for a donor engine for my 1985 300d for about 6 months now and finally found two! at a local junk yard and a family friend. He is asking 1,500 for the whole car. its a 1985 with lowish miles to my understanding. so i'm wondering if its a good deal and/or if its worth it to replace the motor in my 300d when i only paid 1,500 for it.

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:09 AM
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Well you can get a whole lot more stuff off of a car - if you just buy an engine you just get the engine.

But in both cases when you just want the engine to start off with - it comes down to condition. There's no point buying a weaker engine because it comes attached to some extra car parts.

So it is engine condition condition condition condition...

...condition condition...
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:04 AM
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Regardless of price it is pretty well required that any engine you find pass a decent compression check first.. No sense taking a chance on getting a boat anchor. You have one already.

That is about all many people land up with if not taking the effort to really check engines out. As for claims of low milage you have to use your own judgement when you see a car as well. Far too many odometers on these 617 cars are just indicating fairy tales.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:01 PM
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I echo what the others say, and will address two things they did not.

You ask if its worth it to do the work on your car, which you only paid $1,500 for. That question doesn't necessarily depend, for its answer, on the car's purchase price. It depends on its condition and its value to you.

I suggest that you sit down (or go outside and pop the hood if its easier) and do an assessment of what the car is going to need in the next two years, apart from the engine install. I recommend you start with the front bumper and move back, component by component. You don't show your location in your info... but unless you're in a hot dry state, or the car came from same, rust is a huge factor in this assessment. Then decide if you're game for whatever the end investment estimate looks like.

This is especially true relative to your DIY level, whether in particular you will be doing the motor install yourself or paying a shop. Around here, the bare minimum a shop will charge for that job is 12 hours (plus other incidentals, such as changing the oil and coolant, for example), assuming no hiccups. Many shops charge considerably more (and some won't even do a customer-supplied-used-motor install unless they can see and hear the motor run beforehand). Also bear in mind that the 12 hours assumes them receiving the donor motor ready to install. If you roll up with a parts car that they have to pull the motor out of, add another 50 percent to that labour figure.

There are detail differences between the '85 and your car, really relatively minor -- the '85 will have a slightly more complicated vacuum hose setup and it has a black box in the passenger footwell that controls the EGR function. Some shops freak when handed a situation like that if they aren't familiar with older Mercedes (freak = cost creep).

You mention one source is a family friend. Ah. In that case, it is DOUBLY required that you be merciless in assessing the donor car's condition, as chances are pretty good realistically you won't have much recourse once you've bought it, unless you want to create an immense issue. (And if you have to swallow your anger from a problem, and not create an issue if things turn out wrong, chances are you will be angry about it for a long time.) Friends selling friends cars, whatever the situation, isn't always a good idea.

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