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Old 11-08-2013, 08:46 PM
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I've got two complets 85 Turbo heads, and one 83 complete low mileage turbo motor... I've also got an 83 turbo motor that needs a ton of work.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:38 PM
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I've got two complets 85 Turbo heads, and one 83 complete low mileage turbo motor... I've also got an 83 turbo motor that needs a ton of work.
Don't want work . With the new job startin and a long commute I'm goin for easy over cheap. I suspect time wise, swapping the motor is less hours than swapping head.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:14 PM
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Don't want work . With the new job startin and a long commute I'm goin for easy over cheap. I suspect time wise, swapping the motor is less hours than swapping head.
I don't think that is true.....its easy to r&r an engine but takes 2 days......and no telling what parts may get destroyed in the process.....I think my friend pulled the head off a 240d in like 2 hours.....then like someone else mentioned no telling what kind of worms you would get with the new engine......
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:38 AM
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I don't think that is true.....its easy to r&r an engine but takes 2 days......and no telling what parts may get destroyed in the process.....I think my friend pulled the head off a 240d in like 2 hours.....then like someone else mentioned no telling what kind of worms you would get with the new engine......
Just read Army's how to on the motor pull, it's a bit more of a pain than the usual engine pulls I do (saabs, american, asian). OTOH the FSM on the head pull is a bit interesting as well.

I suspect this turbo head will take more than two hours, but I want to take some extra time to make sure the timing chain isn't going anywhere, cover the delivery valves and generally take the time to make sure nothing else breaks.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:37 AM
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Just read Army's how to on the motor pull, it's a bit more of a pain than the usual engine pulls I do (saabs, american, asian). OTOH the FSM on the head pull is a bit interesting as well.

I suspect this turbo head will take more than two hours, but I want to take some extra time to make sure the timing chain isn't going anywhere, cover the delivery valves and generally take the time to make sure nothing else breaks.
One thing is for sure you'll be quicker the second time you do the job!

I'm thinking you might be better off with the engine swap so long as you know it is a good running engine.

Taking stuff to pieces does come with the added danger that you find something else wrong with the block.

I had exactly the same problem with my non turbo OM617. A broken valve stem just like yours =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/276144-om-617-manifold-oil.html

I attribute my busted valve stem to some kipper using normal spanners when adjusting valves - the engine had suffered from a Mercedes "expert" before I bought it - rocker arm sets were installed incorrectly...

When I pulled the head off I found that the bores were pretty badly worn too and then with the added cost of getting the head repaired it turned into a full on rebuild.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:38 PM
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One thing is for sure you'll be quicker the second time you do the job!

I'm thinking you might be better off with the engine swap so long as you know it is a good running engine.

Taking stuff to pieces does come with the added danger that you find something else wrong with the block.

I had exactly the same problem with my non turbo OM617. A broken valve stem just like yours =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/276144-om-617-manifold-oil.html

I attribute my busted valve stem to some kipper using normal spanners when adjusting valves - the engine had suffered from a Mercedes "expert" before I bought it - rocker arm sets were installed incorrectly...

When I pulled the head off I found that the bores were pretty badly worn too and then with the added cost of getting the head repaired it turned into a full on rebuild.
After about 6 hours of wrench turning, I've discovered I can't comply with FSM requirement to pull turbocharger unit. The front lower bolt defies any angle of attack. It is disconnected from exhaust pipe so it'll be coming out with the head. Hopefully I won't have an issue with the oil return line, I think I can get it detached.

The odd compression numbers have me believing it'll end up needing a motor anyway, and the end play in this turbo is excessive, the vanes will be rubbing the bore soon.

I still need to get the odd socket for the head bolts, line up and paint the chain/sprocket. Get the guide and tensioner out.
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