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Old 02-13-2014, 04:35 PM
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To warm up or not to warm up?

I live in NY. Current temperatures range from -11 to 30's. I own a 1982 300sd. I have a few questions.

Should I let my engine warm up before hitting the road?

What are the advantages/disadvantages of letting my engine warm up before driving?

There seem to be people on both sides of the fence. Some say prolonged idling in a cold climate prematurely wears out the engine.

Thought?

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Old 02-13-2014, 04:43 PM
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My opinion, a diesel is so thermally efficient that it can take forever to warm up at idle. My MO has always been to start it, wait a few seconds and then drive off at VERY restricted speeds/RPM's.

Say, for instance, keep the revs below 2000 for the first few minutes of driving, preferably around 1700 if you can get it to shift that low. My '98 will shift around that speed if I'm very gentle with it. From then on, I maintain about 30 MPH on neighborhood streets and it's usually warm by the time I have to accelerate onto the Interstate.

If you're located where you have a hard acceleration onto a highway in the first couple minutes of driving, it makes sense to let it warm up a little before getting out there. I try to make sure the needle is at least at the 40 mark before trying to get up to highway speed.
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Old 02-13-2014, 04:50 PM
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Currently I'm stationed in a rural area, so I have all the time in the world to gradual mosy up to higher speed. Problem is, my tachometer comes in and out haha, though I can still count on my speedometer.

I find that my SD has trouble shifting (slips a little) on those colder mornings. Does this correlate to cold transmission fluids?
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:00 PM
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It's a matter of preference, though I think most would agree some warmup is a good idea. Even in summer, I let my diesels run for at least 30 seconds before I drive off from a cold start.

As I have very limited opportunity to drive at slow speeds once I leave my driveway (unless I choose to go around my block for a few minutes), in winter I don't drive off until the needle is at the 40. This does not take long at all, if the car has been plugged in (block heater).

In extreme cold - as we experienced this winter for weeks, though most years that would only be maybe 5-8 days the whole winter - I let the car warm up for 10 minutes. I am old school/old lady on that and I just don't like to push my old equipment at all, in extreme cold.
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:07 PM
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I let mine warm up while I scrape windows and/or remove snow. If I don't need to do that, then it doesn't get a warm up.
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I usually count to 60 in the winter sometimes with the throttle in a bit to give it a high idle (83 240), then go easy on it till the temp gauge starts to move. In the summer, I just start driving, take it easy for a block or two, then I drive normally.
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This could be just me, however, I believe the 2nd dash above the 40 centigrade mark on the engine temperature indicator is to let drivers know when their car is properly warmed up. This takes my car 8 minuets approximately to reach that point, and about 10 minuets outside in below 30 degrees Fahrenheit. By the time I am driving on the main road the car is at or near the 80 centigrade mark and drives excellently as well as shift as proper as can be even with vacuum leaks.

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Currently I'm stationed in a rural area, so I have all the time in the world to gradual mosy up to higher speed. Problem is, my tachometer comes in and out haha, though I can still count on my speedometer.

I find that my SD has trouble shifting (slips a little) on those colder mornings. Does this correlate to cold transmission fluids?
Are there ANY vacuum leaks in your system? This could be the cause of the transmission having trouble shifting. My car refuses to shift out of 2nd gear until the engine temp reaches 80 centigrade.
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I find the engine warms up faster if leave the heater off till temp hit 80.
I go a few blocks easy till I see some motion on the gauge then a few good runs and the temps comes up quite fast. (with the heater off)
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I haven't tested my system for vaccum leaks. Good links on vacuum leaks? She shifts perfectly once I'm up to 70-80s
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:55 PM
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I always let my old girl warm up. I also plug her in.
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:20 PM
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When it is cold out, I try to let the car warm up for a few minutes. It helps with getting heat faster and the performance is a lot better than when bone cold.
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At temperatures down to 40 below I start, do up the seat belt and am on my way. Living in the second coldest capital in the world I have cold weather experience. Don't use a block heater either, I rely on synthetic oil. Only 202,000 miles and usually don't add oil between changes.
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Even with my gasser, I let it idle for at least a few minutes (or the coolant temp hits 100*F) before I put a load on the engine. If I takeoff before then it's not happy.
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At temperatures down to 40 below I start, do up the seat belt and am on my way. Living in the second coldest capital in the world I have cold weather experience. Don't use a block heater either, I rely on synthetic oil. Only 202,000 miles and usually don't add oil between changes.
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Yep, just turn it on and drive....no warm up....but s-l-o-w-l-y at first.

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