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Old 10-06-2014, 09:05 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys - how much brake fluid to do a flush? Is a half litre bottle needed? Getting my stuff together to give this a go on the weekend.

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Old 10-06-2014, 12:05 PM
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People often wonder about their master cylinder. It's easy to eliminate the master cylinder from the suspect list. Just pop off the three brake lines and plug the holes in the MC. If your MC is OK the brake pedal will be rock hard.

The plugs I used came with a new MC I bought, but it turned out the old one was OK.
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:27 PM
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People often wonder about their master cylinder. It's easy to eliminate the master cylinder from the suspect list. Just pop off the three brake lines and plug the holes in the MC. If your MC is OK the brake pedal will be rock hard.

The plugs I used came with a new MC I bought, but it turned out the old one was OK.
Except that MC usually fail at the end of the travel....
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:05 PM
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Ah, thanks for the correction. I'm glad I posted that and learned something.
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Old 10-08-2014, 07:55 AM
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Topped up the brake fluid on the weekend, and now the brakes are solid. moreso than they've ever been in the past 6 months. I guess its just pumping fluid into the brake booster. I have parts on hand to do the master cylinder, I'm hoping to do it this weekend.

Reading through the Haynes guide, it looks like I'll be bleeding off the clutch slave cylinder. While I've done a master on an autobox, the clutch slave is new to me. EDIT

Anyways, for reference - here's pics of what drool from a failing MC looks like...

At a casual glance, it all looks pretty normal - just that the MC has lost a little fluid.



But if you look under the fitting, its got drooly bubbly paint syndrome:





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Old 10-12-2014, 05:15 PM
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Success!

Got 'er done this morning with no surprises at all. Thankst all for the help here!!
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:35 PM
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New developments...

The rubber line going from the rear reservoir to the clutch master cylinder behind the dash is now leaking. It is cracked and brittle. Is this a special hose, or can it be replaced with any run of the mill tubing? There is no pressure on it, and no special fitting at the master cylinder end, but I dunno what is on the bottom end fittings-wise.
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Old 10-17-2014, 05:20 PM
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If it's my eyes or my monitor then please forgive me... but in those pictures it looks to me like the rear chamber of the reservoir is completely empty. I would call that more visually dramatic than "just lost a little fluid."

To me it almost looks in those pictures like all the fluid is gone from the rear chamber (thus causing soft pedal because half of the brakes weren't doing anything at all, and also explaining the fairly large amount of fluid leakage in that vicinity).

Could just by my eyes seeing a lighter color of fluid or a more opaque chamber plastic section causing it to look that way.

As an aside, good luck with the project. I don't get very many "amens" when I say things like this, but brakes seem to me to be a fragile link on these cars. I just put two more rebuilt front calipers on my 240D to replace a matched set of rebuilt front calipers that seized up after 14 months of use... one of which was a replacement for still another rebuilt front caliper that lasted three or four years and then seized up so tightly and with so little warning that the first symptom of trouble was the loud bang, following by grinding, as the rotor disc separated from its own hub due to heat.

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