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Old 04-05-2015, 11:44 AM
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It is hard to say. What make of Drive Shaft Support did you use? I settled on one by Myele even thought there are no longer great supplier of Parts. There is 2 companies that sell the Support with the Bearing already in it and People have said they do not last.

This is a fairly recent threads:
Sticking U-joint causes Vibration that Rips up several Drive Shaft Supports turns out to be Rusty Needle Bearings
W123 Propeller shaft vibration tears up rubber mounts, replaced nearly everything
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:27 PM
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It was a Febi. Wasn't it you that found an after market U joint, well anyway I followed that lead an bought one a while ago, thank you, at least I have one if needed without trying to find another drive shaft for a 5 speed car. I'll crawl under next week and take a look, maybe my buddies helper left something lose but the car feels just like it did before. the vibration was really noticeable yesterday when I had some passengers in the wagon. come to think of it, that Fibe support didn't have the "normal" rubber "web" to support it, well it still shouldn't have went south that fast I spoz.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:43 PM
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It was a Febi. Wasn't it you that found an after market U joint, well anyway I followed that lead an bought one a while ago, thank you, at least I have one if needed without trying to find another drive shaft for a 5 speed car. I'll crawl under next week and take a look, maybe my buddies helper left something lose but the car feels just like it did before. the vibration was really noticeable yesterday when I had some passengers in the wagon. come to think of it, that Fibe support didn't have the "normal" rubber "web" to support it, well it still shouldn't have went south that fast I spoz.
Febi; unforunatly there is no company like Lemfoerder that I could find selling a better quality Drive Shaft Bearing Support and no one has bought one from the Dealer and given some comment on who might make the one from the Dealer.

If you are speaking of Me as you said I replaced My U-joint long ago before the info in the newer thread was availiable that essentially said you could beat on the U-joint and restore it to flexing properly again.

My case was different. I was having no vibration issues but had My B2 Piston break. I removed the Drive Shaft in order to push the Transmission to the side to get at the B2 Piston.

When I had the Drive Shaft off I found that the Drive Shaft Bearing Support was cracking so I decided to repalce that and the Drive Shaft Support Bearing.

During the inspection I found the notchy U-joint and looked up an old thread on replacing it and did a good deal of searches to find the U-joint wich turned out to be cheap and easy to find if I had know what to look for.
I also found that there are quite a few Cars that have the staked in U-joints. Ford actually has a kit to remove the Staking on some of their Drive shafts.
Unfotunately no kit for Mercedes.

In short I got away with changing the U-joint.

If I had known about the newer info and freeing up the Joint I likely would have tried that before ordering a U-joint. Also it is not clear if freeing up the Old U-joint has logivity it.
So I guess you have a choice to make.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:21 PM
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Febi; unforunatly there is no company like Lemfoerder that I could find selling a better quality Drive Shaft Bearing Support and no one has bought one from the Dealer and given some comment on who might make the one from the Dealer.

If you are speaking of Me as you said I replaced My U-joint long ago before the info in the newer thread was availiable that essentially said you could beat on the U-joint and restore it to flexing properly again.

My case was different. I was having no vibration issues but had My B2 Piston break. I removed the Drive Shaft in order to push the Transmission to the side to get at the B2 Piston.

When I had the Drive Shaft off I found that the Drive Shaft Bearing Support was cracking so I decided to repalce that and the Drive Shaft Support Bearing.

During the inspection I found the notchy U-joint and looked up an old thread on replacing it and did a good deal of searches to find the U-joint wich turned out to be cheap and easy to find if I had know what to look for.
I also found that there are quite a few Cars that have the staked in U-joints. Ford actually has a kit to remove the Staking on some of their Drive shafts.
Unfotunately no kit for Mercedes.

In short I got away with changing the U-joint.

If I had known about the newer info and freeing up the Joint I likely would have tried that before ordering a U-joint. Also it is not clear if freeing up the Old U-joint has logivity it.
So I guess you have a choice to make.
I would definitely like to find a better support. The Febi does not have the rubber webbing. Its just the round "holder' attached to the bracket.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:34 AM
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Steve, It seems like all the U-Joints in these MB`s with 200K + miles will have that notche detent feel.
The DL really doesn`t move as it is pretty rigid the way it is mounted, so the joint doesn`t get much movement
compared to one say with a rigid rear axle like a PU.

I had the joint replaced by a DL shop about 3 yrs back. They used a joint that
needs a shot of grease now and then. They replaced the 2 centering Bushings
in the end of the shafts, plus the Center Support and Bearing.

33K miles later, the rubber support was torn all the way around. ordered one
from Pelican, was a Fibi with a made in China sticker. Rubber looks similar to
the one it replaced.

We`ll see how long this one lasts. Just was under the 240 checking things yesterday,
so far...so good. gave the Joint a shot of grease.

If this one goes, it will be one from the Dealer, think they were $95. Cheap when
you think of the longevity of them.

Maybe one from PNP would last longer.


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Old 04-06-2015, 10:06 AM
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Morning Charlie, Humm, I'm having a hard time finding something to blame for taking out that center support besides myself for using a Febi made in China and I ordered two of them, one for a spare, doh. Yah, maybe one from one of my parts cars would last longer, I'd try it if it wasn't such a hassle to get. That "notche detent" was the only wrinkle I could think of. I like the idea of a grease fitting in the U joint, my DS between tractor and mower has them. Maybe something will come to light when i look under there but it feels just it did before, same vibration.
Have a nice day and enjoy the sunshine.
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1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

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