Looking for OM617 to Land Rover Series II mating advice - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Stretch · #1 10-21-2015, 03:16 PM

G'day Folks,

(This might not happen but in case it does)

Who was it here who has OM617 to Land Rover "series" conversion experience?

I'm thinking of ways of using my rebuilt OM617 in an old vehicle that won't get clobbered by Dutch road tax laws. Despite what "they" say about old diesels I still firmly believe there's nothing more eco-unfriendly than waste. The engine is rebuilt. Not to use it is a waste.

I've always liked Series II Land Rovers despite the trouble I have fitting my legs in them (!) but a manual flywheel and some sort of mating advice could be all I need to go diesel again...

Dan Stokes · #2 10-21-2015, 04:20 PM

I'm using a 240D flywheel and the 617 starter in mine and all works just like it should. I know that by rights I should have the heavier flywheel but I have what I could find. I've heard all kinds of stories about flywheel balance but again mine's just groovy.

Your results may vary. No guarantee expressed or implied. (Any more lawyer words needed?)

Dan

charmalu · #3 10-22-2015, 12:55 AM

There was a thread a month or so back where a guy was asking about doing this swap.
Can`t find it yet...but found these.

Transmission and t-case for 67 Land Rover OM617 swap

I put an om617 in my land rover discovery!

Marry a 'Brit'? OM617 into a Land Rover?

Charlie

sent from my pos computer

ngarover · #4 10-22-2015, 02:02 AM

I put an om617 in my land rover discovery!

Was my project but it's been abandoned. Engines sold and truck is spoke for (for the 5 speed transmission). The reality is that it was just not worth the expense. You have to have at least 4" of lift plus a modified oil pan to clear the front axle. I still have my altered flywheel and custom throw-out bearing setup, only thing I was missing for the mating was the adapter plate between the trans and motor.

Stretch · #5 10-22-2015, 09:15 AM

Thanks chaps. I've heard mumblings about the 2.6 litre petrol engine models have a more suitable bulkhead arrangement...

...It looks like I'm going to have to stop being so lazy and get on with some reading!

Two more links came in via PM (thanks again) there were =>

Cummins 4BT & Diesel Conversions Forums

and

Seriestrek - Extreme duty axles

To make things more complicated (or perhaps not) I'd ideally like to own one of these "special" Land Rovers =>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_Motor

They have nicer seats!

Dan Stokes · #6 10-22-2015, 11:03 AM

Another (non-M-B) option:

One of the BangShift guys is installing an English-spec L-R Diesel in his. He ordered the engine up from England and had it shipped to Oregon - thinking your shipping would be less. I know it's running now but not sure exactly where the project is in terms of being done. If you search BS under SBG (short for Super Buick Guy) you should get a link. I think the title was something like "Posh SAR" or something like that. He does search and rescue and was building this for his wife to use for that. It was sort of a bolt-in but took lots of adapting.

Dan

interzonearts · #7 10-22-2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch

G'day Folks,

but a manual flywheel and some sort of mating advice could be all I need to go diesel again...

I put OM617 in a 67 Series IIa last year. There's a few things you need to consider that will determine what work you'll need done.

Most important would be which transmission (and t-case) you wanna use. Series transmission will handle the extra torque not all that great. I mean you can use it as i do but that sort of limits what you do with your right foot and might fail eventually anyways. It can always be rebuilt though

I did the swap the easy way - bought a conversion kit which included motor mounts, custom flywheel, starter, transmission adapter and a bunch of small stuff.

This thread 1991 SWB R380 RANGECEDES! - Yes, marriage made in heaven.. shows a similar swap done from scratch.

You may have considerably less room to work with i a 2 series than what he had to work with in the Rangy.

If you have any specific questions i'd be glad t answer if i can or point you to someone ho might know

Stretch · #8 10-22-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch

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Who was it here who has OM617 to Land Rover "series" conversion experience?
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Ha I do believe that it was YOU I was thinking of!

Quote:

Originally Posted by interzonearts

I put OM617 in a 67 Series IIa last year. There's a few things you need to consider that will determine what work you'll need done.

Most important would be which transmission (and t-case) you wanna use. Series transmission will handle the extra torque not all that great. I mean you can use it as i do but that sort of limits what you do with your right foot and might fail eventually anyways. It can always be rebuilt though

I did the swap the easy way - bought a conversion kit which included motor mounts, custom flywheel, starter, transmission adapter and a bunch of small stuff.

This thread 1991 SWB R380 RANGECEDES! - Yes, marriage made in heaven.. shows a similar swap done from scratch.

You may have considerably less room to work with i a 2 series than what he had to work with in the Rangy.

If you have any specific questions i'd be glad t answer if i can or point you to someone ho might know

Thanks for the link to the Range Rover conversion I had forgotten about that one.

Where did you get your kit?

And how close does your engine sit next to the front axle?

(I'll leave any questions about transfer cases for another time if this mad {?} idea actually comes into reality)

interzonearts · #9 10-22-2015, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch

Ha I do believe that it was YOU I was thinking of!

Thanks for the link to the Range Rover conversion I had forgotten about that one.

Where did you get your kit?

And how close does your engine sit next to the front axle?

(I'll leave any questions about transfer cases for another time if this mad {?} idea actually comes into reality)

I got the kit from Robert Davis, who is a known person in the land rover community here in the states. rdavisinva@gmail.com

The engine sits on top of the front axle and oil pan modification was necessary. I have the mech fan and maybe an inch to the front crossmember while keeping the stock transmission in stock location but i had to relocate the rad on top of said crossmember. Mine's a 2a series not 2 though so i'm not sure if you have the same kind of room in there.

Stretch · #10 10-23-2015, 09:14 AM

OK thanks for that.

If the big plan comes off I might be back for more information but there's little point in me continuing to ask questions just at the moment 'cos this Land Rover ownership thing is still all in my head...

interzonearts · #11 10-23-2015, 09:03 PM

Sure, keep us posted.