Mike - THANKS so much for that. I didn't know about Marcus - and I should have. I'm not interested in taking anything away from Daimler and Benz but I think it's important to give credit where it's due.

Interesting that Daimler and Benz got their credit as a part of Nazi revisionist history. I prefer to know what REALLY happened.

Dan

HA forget the man who redesigned...

Imagine the women, Bertha Benz....now she had guts or shall I say BALLS!!! If it wasn't for her growing a pair and taking her husbands invention out into the real world. A a time that women had no rights, risking life...limb and reputation....Mercedes would never be where it is at now with out her....


Bertha Benz, la pioniera dell
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://blog.you-ng.it/2014/04/05/bertha-benz-pioniera-dellautomobile/&prev=search

You go girl!!!

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Second that, the steering looks a little jiggily at anything over 10mph..

You posted this in; Diesel Discussion......perhaps you didn't notice that?

So, if not diesel, what'd it run on??

Originally they were run on ligorina, replica's I have no clue.....

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Aww come on joe... This forum has evolved from strictly a mb diesel problem helpline into a family of members discussing automotive interests, and a healthy dose of wonderful members available to assist with diesel powered vehicle issues when they arise.

And a few members pine for the old days...

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Vstech would serve the forum better by deleting skid row joe instead.

Thanks for posting the OP, very interesting. Its always interesting to me to think electric cars were in some ways first before a true reliable IC engine, and here we are now headed in that direction as a new thing.

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Cooljjay - I tried Googling for ligorina and came up empty. Please explain. Not doubting you - I just want to know.

Dan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligroin

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Thanks! The "a" on the end must have messed up my search.

Now to look up Stoddard solvent and find the difference.

Dan

Just so, but was just wondering what the fuel source was, that's all......

I seriously doubt it was diesel fuel, since Rudolph Diesel prolly wasn't around then......or, was he??

I'd go with either rubbing alcohol type of alcohol, or, kerosene. IF, I had to guess here.......

"Ligroin" is a petroleum solvent used in labs. It's made up mostly of C7 and C8 carbon chains. It's a good guess that it was available to the early experimenters - remember that gasoline was a waste product of kerosene making in those days and was tossed. Besides, the octane in gasoline would have been zilch. So ligroin was a liquid hydrocarbon that was flammable, hence FUEL! They also tried coal dust and any number of other things that even might go boom.

Dan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutz_AG

So they didn't build the car, but as for the engines...... Daimler and Diesel were both employees. Have a 2 cylinder air cooled diesel Deutz tractor that is just unstoppable. Amazing engines ! I wish they were put in more on road applications.

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