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A/C compressor
The a/c compressor went out on my 95 E300D I have two used ones but I don't know if they are working or not is there a way to test them before I install it?
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What makes you think it is the compressor?
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The compressor makes a lot noise when I turn on the a/c
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If it really IS the compressor... as compared to the compressor clutch for instance.. stop running it.... you might save a lot of work in terms of a ' Black Death' sent downstream.....
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The answer to the original question is, "No".
Even though a compressor might spin freely by hand it is no indication of its internal condition. If it doesn't turn at all MIGHT be an indication but not definitive. Oil sitting for a long period can act as a temporary "glue" which might loosen.
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I think there is... which might be addressed in the MB AC manual .. but you or anyone else I know of do not have the bench equipment to test them and compare.... so practically....' no' ...
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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I once rigged up a pressure gauge to the output port of a used R4 compressor. I spun the compressor (after putting a little oil in it) with an electric drill to see if it was "compressing". I do not remember what the psi numbers were but it was "compressing". I never ended up using that compressor (still have it) so the "test" was for all for nothing.
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Tanks guys for the replies I'm going to take a chance and install one of the used compressor that I have
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When choosing. At least choose one that you can spin the clutch/belt pulley smoothly with no noise, and the clutch face should be able to rotate it without much force... a wrench should not be needed...
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I would do the following before committing to the install:
- spin the outer part of the pulley, it should be absolutely silky smooth - spin the inner part of the pulley, it should have some minimal resistance but you should be able to easily move it back and forth with simple finger pressure and should again be smooth, no grinding, hesitation, or roughness - apply 12 V to the coil, ensure the clutch engages and there is no slip between inner and outer hubs. If it passes all this, now proceed to flushing the compressor with oil. Use PAG46 for R134a or mineral for R12. I would pass at least a full 8 oz bottle through using the drain port (the bolt adjacent to the electrical connector for the clutch (for Denso compressors - used on the 124 and later) and the suction and discharge ports. Rotate the compressor by hand to ensure the oil flows through everything and drain it thoroughly by holding it upside down over a drain pan and spinning the hub. Confirm the drained oil is clear - if it has debris in it, chances are the compressor has Black Death and it is toast. If you get through that, fill the compressor with new oil to the proper charge quantity and install it.
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Tanks Vstech and jay bob I'll follow your instructions
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Can't you swap the clutch much easier? You can leave the refrigerant in the system. The bearings inside the clutch take the main load and usually give such grinding noises first. You can even rebuild a clutch, if you have a shop press. Many use the same PN 2-row ball bearing, but it costs ~$25 and I often buy new clutches for less, so never tried.
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If I'm able to swap the clucth like you said it's going to save me time and money so I'm going to try that first tanks
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