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Old 06-15-2016, 05:42 PM
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Ok.. just for consistency when comparing vent temperatures... they should be quoted with the windows down, the blower on LOW and sufficient air being supplied to the condensor... they will read higher when the blower is not on low... but will cool the car quicker..
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What is the reason for blower on low? Most AC sites recommend blower on high and system in recirculate mode, windows down, doors closed so you can reach in easily to feel the vents.

Below copied from Troubleshooting with Gauges FAQ

"Should I test with doors open or closed, high idle, blower on high or low?
We should measure high and low side pressure at stable engine speeds. This can be done at engine speeds just slightly above idle. 1,200 to 1,500 RPM is most often recommended. On front wheel drive cars, never rev the engine or hold the engine at high RPM while charging or checking pressures. This can create dangerous high pressure. This is because electric condenser fans are fixed in speed, and will not compensate for high engine RPM. The same holds true on rear wheel drive cars with engine driven fans. A defective fan clutch could cause pressures to reach dangerous levels at higher engine RPM.
We like to test with the system in MAX position on high blower with doors closed. Windows can be open. MAX (recirculate) mode is preferred since we'll need to have the hood up while charging and testing. In fresh air mode, hot engine heat can be drawn into the fresh air cowl under the wiper blades. Same reason we would like to test with doors closed. We would like to keep engine and exhaust heat from causing abnormal heat load on the evaporator. We're not bothered by having the windows down, since this helps create a typical and stable heat load. And it's easy to reach in and feel how cold the vent temps are getting.
Testing should be done with blower speed on high. Low blower speed will reduce heat load on the evaporator to the point where compressor cycling can occur. We want nice stable conditions when testing. When needed, low blower speed can be used to force low side pressure down during testing and adjustment of compressor cut-out pressure."

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Old 06-15-2016, 05:46 PM
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I learn a ton from this site. What is the danger of too much oil? When it gets cooler I am willing to drain some oil and getting the correct amount in the system. Any suggestions on how to get the correct amount out and back in? A big thanks to all on this.
Draining means taking compressor out to remove drain bolt, flushing all hoses, condenser and evaporator, i.e. starting from scratch.
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I learn a ton from this site. What is the danger of too much oil? When it gets cooler I am willing to drain some oil and getting the correct amount in the system. Any suggestions on how to get the correct amount out and back in? A big thanks to all on this.
Don't worry about it. Your system is fine and cooling OK. If you are happy then just enjoy. There is no way to tell how much is in there, so there is no way to know how much to remove. A little oil over the top is not going to hurt unless you fill the system with oil completely. Oil will be pumped around the system with the Freon or R134a, so will be distributed around evap, condenser, rec/drier etc. A/C is not Rocket Science and please please do not let someone to make you believe it is.
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Don't worry about it. Your system is fine and cooling OK. If you are happy then just enjoy. There is no way to tell how much is in there, so there is no way to know how much to remove. A little oil over the top is not going to hurt unless you fill the system with oil completely. Oil will be pumped around the system with the Freon or R134a, so will be distributed around evap, condenser, rec/drier etc. A/C is not Rocket Science and please please do not let someone to make you believe it is.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:32 PM
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I don't think this is normal. The vapor pressure should remain the same whether the system is over/ under/ or correctly charged. i.e. letting out some refrigerant should not change the pressure reading. Maybe there is moisture in the system which is contributing to the "extra" pressure?

Per this R134a calculator R134a Refrigerant Pressure Temperature Calculator , at 90 F the vapor pressure should be 103 psi.
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Can you put your gauge set on again to read the static pressure?

Below copied from Troubleshooting with Gauges FAQ


Can I tell if the system is full with a static pressure reading?
No. We might determine if there is liquid refrigerant in the system, but we won't be able to tell how much liquid it contains. For example, a thirty pound can of refrigerant will show the same pressure whether it has thirty pounds in it or if it only has 1 ounce. With static pressure, you will only know if the system has some amount of liquid refrigerant present.

What good is a static pressure reading then?
With our initial pressure reading, we can tell if the system has enough pressure to satisfy the low pressure switch and enable the compressor to operate. Static pressure is used to determine if a jug of refrigerant is contaminated with air. Static pressure can also be used to determine if a system has enough pressure to begin leak testing. Your static pressure should be no lower than 50 psi when leak testing.
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To determine how close to freezing your system is able to get... also in checking the setting of the TXvalve.... you put the blower on LOW so that the air is in contact with the evaporator the maximum amount of time.. as compared to being on a higher setting... if , under good test conditions, it will not get close to freezing you know to keep working on finding the problem..
When you see people quoting 36, 38 degrees.. those are not with the blower on high..... . it has to be on low...

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